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    • totalitarianundefined
      totalitarian
      last edited by

      OK I've had this issue on 2 of my printers (installed the duet on both printers to test it's not a fault with the machines)

      About 33% of the time this is what happens when I power up my machine. https://photos.app.goo.gl/JSx6ikmvSesdLJMU2

      As you can hear, it is skipping like crazy. This happens on both X & Y.

      If I reset the machine several times, it happily prints for several days.

      Any ideas, are the pin headers on the board faulty?

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      • Jbournsundefined
        Jbourns
        last edited by

        Sounds just like my z axis driver, it has no torque at all. Putting the z axis motor on any other driver its smooth and quite.
        Hope you get it resolved.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          Which firmware version are you using? Have you tried version 1.20RC1 ?

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • totalitarianundefined
            totalitarian
            last edited by

            Still running 1.19, is there anything specific in 1.20RC1 that could address the issue?

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              You should be running at least version 1.19.2 which addresses bugs in 1.19, one of which might possibly account for the strange behaviour. If you are using our MAX31856 thermocouple daughter board, there is another relevant fix in 1.20. In any case, with 1.20 close to release I won't be doing any investigations into possible bugs in earlier series firmware.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • totalitarianundefined
                totalitarian
                last edited by

                Thanks, i'll update later today and report back if I still get this issue

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                • cheeseandhamundefined
                  cheeseandham
                  last edited by

                  Totalitarian,have you found anything?

                  My new Duet has been like it since it's been hooked up. Intermittent working, occasionally it drives correctly although I find it doesn't last and will change to this weird crunching after some time.

                  • I've changed the loom

                  • I've changed the NEMA17 motor it is hooked up to by testing it against my 2 year old (working) Ormerod 2's X-axis (with Duet 0.65 running firmware 1.19)

                  • as well I plugged it into the Y-axis on this Ormerod 2 - same symptoms.

                  Today I was demonstrating to a friend and he pointed out to me that to him, it looked like it might be heat related, as it works from a "cold" state (not been switched on recently) but doesn't work after it's been on a while.

                  We then did further tests by pointing a big household fan at the board when switching it on from cold.Many (unscientific) repeats seem to show that it works a lot longer when a fan is pointing at it, as well as failing after a couple of minutes when the fan is removed.

                  • Video of symptoms - https://photos.app.goo.gl/9NyewaadmLwrqx452

                  • This is immediately afterwards, after switching off and swapping the X and Y axis cables on the Duet (and nothing else). This shows the X-axis working and the Y-axis crunching https://photos.app.goo.gl/DOma7r8vhHJ3bs5x1

                  For information, I was running Firmware 1.19.2, and just in case I upgraded to Firmware Version: 1.20RC4 (2017-12-20) as indicated above, with no change to the behaviour.

                  config.g

                  ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17 to 1.19)
                  ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                  ;
                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Wed Dec 20 2017 22:03:57 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time)
                  
                  ; General preferences
                  M111 S0                            ; Debugging off
                  G21                                ; Work in millimetres
                  G90                                ; Send absolute coordinates...
                  M83                                ; ...but relative extruder moves
                  M555 P2                            ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                   ; Set axis minima
                  M208 X240 Y240 Z200 S0             ; Set axis maxima
                  
                  ; Endstops
                  M574 X0 Z0 S0                      ; Set active low endstops
                  M574 Y1 S1                         ; Set active high endstops
                  M558 P1 X1 Y0 Z1 H5 F120 T6000     ; Set Z probe type to unmodulated, the axes for which it is used and the dive height + speeds
                  G31 P600 X0 Y0 Z2.8                ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                  M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20           ; Define mesh grid
                  
                  ; Drives
                  M569 P0 S0                         ; Drive 0 goes backwards
                  M569 P1 S1                         ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                  M569 P2 S1                         ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                  M569 P3 S1                         ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                  M569 P4 S1                         ; Drive 4 goes forwards
                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I0         ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
                  M92 X87.489 Y87.489 Z4000 E420:420 ; Set steps per mm
                  M566 X300 Y900 Z12 E120:120        ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 X6000 Y6000 Z180 E1200:1200   ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 X500 Y20 Z250 E250:250        ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  M906 X800 Y1000 Z800 E800:800 I30  ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                  M84 S30                            ; Set idle timeout
                  
                  ; Heaters
                  M305 P0 T10000 B3988 C0 R4700      ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                  M143 H0 S120                       ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                  M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700     ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                  M143 H1 S260                       ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 260C
                  M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700     ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                  M143 H2 S260                       ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 260C
                  
                  ; Tools
                  M563 P0 D0 H1                      ; Define tool 0
                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                    ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                  G10 P0 R0 S0                       ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                  M563 P1 D1 H2                      ; Define tool 1
                  G10 P1 X10 Y0 Z0                   ; Set tool 1 axis offsets
                  G10 P1 R0 S0                       ; Set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                  
                  ; Network
                  M550 PMy RepRapPro Ormerod 2       ; Set machine name
                  M552 S1                            ; Enable network
                  ;*** Access point is configured manually via M587 by the user
                  M586 P0 S1                         ; Enable HTTP
                  M586 P1 S1                         ; Enable FTP
                  M586 P2 S0                         ; Disable Telnet
                  
                  ; Fans
                  M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1             ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                  M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1:2 T45        ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                  M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1:2 T45        ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                  
                  ; Custom settings are not configured
                  
                  

                  So, is this a known issue? Is there supposed to be a fan over some part of the board that I'm not aware of? (it is mounted in the open, so there is no airflow issue) or is this something I should be contacting Duet3D about?

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
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                    I've just replied to your similar post on the RepRapForum. If you suspect that a particular motor output his at fault, try substituting the E1 motor output instead, and use the M584 command to assign the E1 driver (driver 4) to the axis concerned. The M584 command must come before some other commands including M906 and M350.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • totalitarianundefined
                      totalitarian
                      last edited by

                      cheeseandham doing as dc42 mentioned fixed the issue for me. It must be a faulty driver. dc42 how do we go about getting it replaced under warranty?

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        Email your supplier. If you bought it from duet3d.com then the address is info at duet3d dot com.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • cheeseandhamundefined
                          cheeseandham
                          last edited by

                          Right, now Christmas is out of the way!

                          I used the M584 command to assign the E1 driver (driver 4) to the X axis as instructed above.
                          Everything works fine and I commissioned and could print a Marvin.

                          Moving the loom back to the X axis, and unfortunately it does the same thing as before (works for 0-4 minutes then crunch & fail)

                          I wouldn't mind so much if I hadn't bought the DuetWifi specifically for dual extrusion 🙂

                          Therefore I'll report this to my supplier.

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                          • cheeseandhamundefined
                            cheeseandham
                            last edited by

                            Sorted out / solved.

                            I'll just say Think3DPrint3D have great customer service. 😄

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