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    [3.6.0.Beta.2+4] G30 Z motion max accel not enforced

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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators @Notepad
      last edited by dc42

      @Notepad thanks. Beta 2+3 is at https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/pasag1g18orahwvn49qp2/ABWgw6D-TyKWxxurTmGwiUE?rlkey=r9h3rjyw1l4wh7xbr8yho37gw&dl=0 however it has an issue with CoreXY kinematics that cause the first X or Y movement to be diagonal. You should be able to work around that by commanding very short X and Y movement before homing. I didn't publisg the beta2+2 builds.

      Please can you also try the following with beta2+4:

      1. After homing for the first time, send M201, M203 and M906 to check that the Z acceleration, speed and motor current are as expected.

      2. Try removing the two M201 commands from QuickHomeXL.g and use M201.1 instead to set lower acceleration when homing.

      3. If it is safe to do so, try removing the two M906 commands from Quick HomeXL.g.

      These tests may tell us whether the problem really is that Z acceleration or speed is too high, or motor current is too low.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • Notepadundefined
        Notepad @dc42
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        @dc42
        Will do. I had to step out the factory for today so I will get these tested tomorrow.

        The real bamboo printer manufacturer

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        • Notepadundefined
          Notepad @dc42
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          @dc42 Just to keep you updated. I will have the testing results tomorrow

          The real bamboo printer manufacturer

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @Notepad
            last edited by

            @Notepad we've found a more general issue with beta4 performing moves at incorrect speeds and I am working on a fix. Although the symptoms we have reproduced are different from yours, I suspect it is the same fault.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • Notepadundefined
              Notepad @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42 Thats good to know. is there any additional testing you would like me to undertake with this new identified behaviour?

              The real bamboo printer manufacturer

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              • Notepadundefined
                Notepad @dc42
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                @dc42 Is it possible to get a binary made for the duet 2. last thing I need to test is if its hardware specific.

                The real bamboo printer manufacturer

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                • Notepadundefined
                  Notepad @dc42
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                  @dc42

                  I have results so far!

                  For firmware updates with no gcode changes
                  Beta 2+1 behaves as expected
                  Beta 2+3 Produces the artefact (does not move in a diagonal at first move command)
                  Beta 2+4 Produces the artefact

                  Using Beta 2+4 the Quick Home XL macro has been edited with debug steps
                  Quick Home XL.txt

                  Which has produced the following
                  6aabc50a-c012-41e7-b779-49e55b818e2f-image.png
                  Whilst the order of the debug outputs are out of sync with the requests. once the values have been shifted around, the requested changes do appear to be happening.
                  This does not rule out if the printer is processing command moves with incorrect values, but it is more likely that the print to DWC service might have a delay.
                  Both behaviours however do not explain the sudden rise in the Z accelerations.


                  Replacing M201 in the macro with M201.1 in the config.g

                  Important to note the M201 in the macro only commands the X & Y motors, the Z acceleration is commanded in the config.g already (set to z500).

                  the Config.g was updated to include M201.1 Z300

                  This did no change to the behaviour


                  M906 was removed from the macro, which did noticeably increase the distance the bed could move before stalling. This definitely highlighted that the bed was accelerating very aggressively.


                  To guarantee that this behaviour is repeatable, I have tested this on a separate machine. This machine does not have a roto toolboard, and is instead using a D3-mini WITHOUT sbc.
                  The firmware version is 3.6.0.beta2+4
                  config.g Quick Home XL.txt

                  The behaviour of the motor stalling from excessive accelerations is also present on this machine.


                  This currently concludes my available testing. It appears that the use of M201, M201.1 M906 do not affect the behaviour of the printers, and the z motion on consecutive homing moves appears to stay broken.

                  Homing the printer through the homeall button does appear to be working, The first use after using the macro does produce the same error, but subsequent uses of the homeall.g appears to be working normally.
                  The single error appeared when a G30 line was used in the middle of the homing sequence

                  What is very interesting is after using a mixture of homeall.g and quickhome.g the printer does not seem to be doing the incorrect behaviour any more. What did show up a single time before this behaviour change (but after the machine has been moving multiple times) is the print head on a homeY.g move, moved backwards in a 15 degree angle. After this the z movement stayed consistantly working normally.

                  My current gut feeling is the issue may be directly linked to the diagonal moving identified in Beta2+3


                  I hope this is helpful @dc42, if there is any way to gather more advanced debug logs that would be helpful. feel free to use me in any way needed,

                  The real bamboo printer manufacturer

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators @Notepad
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                    @Notepad please could you test if this is resolved in 3.6beta3. test builds are available here:

                    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/22qkmz3oqxo2jb97l7716/AMVS8V_burccxcC5HWIfwEk?rlkey=v5vi2k9q1qjqviq97otkjqn1g&dl=0. Please try them on your machine(s) if you can.

                    Release notes are at https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/wiki/Changelog-RRF-3.x-Beta#reprapfirmware-360-beta3-in-preparation.

                    www.duet3d.com

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                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                      T3P3Tony administrators @T3P3Tony
                      last edited by T3P3Tony

                      @Notepad please use the official release files:

                      https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/37289/software-version-3-6-0-beta-3-now-available

                      www.duet3d.com

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                      • Notepadundefined
                        Notepad @T3P3Tony
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                        @T3P3Tony I will test these first opportunity I can. Current eta is Monday

                        The real bamboo printer manufacturer

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                        • Notepadundefined
                          Notepad @T3P3Tony
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                          @T3P3Tony Testing all done (sorry about the delay)
                          Works completely fine on Duet2 and Duet3mini. no issues with the bed at all

                          The real bamboo printer manufacturer

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                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                            T3P3Tony administrators @Notepad
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                            @Notepad thanks a lot for confirming that.

                            www.duet3d.com

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