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    • vpundefined
      vp
      last edited by

      now it is clear to me, that was what i meant with

      Taking the nonlinear behavior into account, Rges would be higher and by that showing a smaller temperature than it has.

      To sum it up, in case a thermistor breaks completely, connection in series is better, because it auto detects the problem, in case a thermistor is completely wrong (too cold) but still alive, connection in parallel would be better.

      So it is a lose or lose situation;)

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      • dc42undefined
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        Yes, that about sums it up.

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        • Synapsisundefined
          Synapsis
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          If I want to connect a second thermistor for a virtual heater do i connect to Pin 35 for thermistoR3 but the other wire goes to ground? I could not find a wiring diagram.

          M305 P103 T100000 R1000 B4200 STEMP2 but how do i tell it is Thermistor3

          Thanks

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          • dc42undefined
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            The other wire should go to AGND.

            Add parameter X3 to that M305 command to tell it to use thermistor 3 (the one labelled E2).

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            • Synapsisundefined
              Synapsis
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              Great thanks David

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              • Synapsisundefined
                Synapsis
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                Ok gots things hooked up and setup, my questione is wheere do i find the reading in the Web Control if you can see it that is?
                Under Extra I have only a MCU which has always been there.

                ok found out this:

                M305 P103
                Heater 103 uses Thermistor sensor channel 3, T:100000.0 B:4700.0 C:0.00e+00 R:1000.0 L:0 H:0

                does this meah I have to create a tool Heater 103?

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                • Synapsisundefined
                  Synapsis
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                  @dc42:

                  …. (the one labelled E2).

                  Sorry but I can,t find a E2 there are other two like E2_Step, E2_N amd more. (which you surly know πŸ™‚ )I thought it was the Pin 35 Labeled Thermistor3-

                  Before I burn something I would rather be sure. Thanks

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                  • dc42undefined
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                    Yes it's the pin labelled Thermistor 3 if you are connecting directly to the expansion connector.

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                    • Synapsisundefined
                      Synapsis
                      last edited by

                      Strange then, please what is the G code to read the temperature as I can not find it.
                      Also I see nothing the the Web Control.

                      Just a thought is there a specific GND to use I used Pin 42.

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                      • dc42undefined
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                        Connect it to the AGND pin (also called VSSA), not GND.

                        You will find the additional temperature in DWC if you follow the Extra link above the heaters display, provided that you give the heater a name in the M305 command.

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                        • Synapsisundefined
                          Synapsis
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                          Thanks David did not know VSSA was also called AGND…

                          I thought it was a typo error and you wanted to say a GND. πŸ™‚

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                          • Synapsisundefined
                            Synapsis
                            last edited by

                            Not so good I'm getting a reading of 1100,00 .
                            Now if I connect to the main bedheater connector I get the same value as the one there is now.
                            So I know its not the thermistor giving strange readings seeing when connected there it works.
                            Gave it a name etc. I tried different B and R values but nothing it may go a low as 600C.
                            Any ideas as to why itws not giveing correct readings. Connected to Pin 35 and 40 on the expansione bus.

                            This is my setup I copied the first heater 0 settings
                            ; Heaters
                            M305 P0 T100000 B3950 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                            M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                            M305 P1 T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                            M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                            M305 P103 T100000 B3950 C0 R4700 S"TEMP2" X3

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                            • dc42undefined
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                              I just checked the schematics, and you also need to connect a 4.7K 1% resistor between the thermistor input and ADVREF.

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                              • Synapsisundefined
                                Synapsis
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                                OK think I'll buy the daughter board πŸ™‚

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