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    • Saltlife716undefined
      Saltlife716
      last edited by

      Extruding 10mm of filament at 5mm/sec, skips the entire time

      BI v2\. 5 Heavily modded
      Duet Wifi
      E3D v6 0.20mm
      FSR autoleveling

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      • Trojan3Dundefined
        Trojan3D
        last edited by

        Hi Saltlife,
        From what I can see, the temperature is one of the issues, so you should just raise up to 220 degrees minimum if not 230!
        Your extruder is fine printing the skirt because S3D give usually less plastic during the process.
        The temperatures reading change every time from a board to another, it doesn't mean that Duet is wrong, you should try to point an IR probe to the heater and see what is really going on near the nozzle.
        Your extruder shouldn't skip steps as in the video, should grind the filament instead, so, I would raise the current to a decent amount and then step back until the motor is running fairly warm if you don't know the motor technical details.
        The motor is not retracting, is just the effect of the stall, the filament act as a spring as your is a Bowden and the pressure is just doing that because the moment your motor stall, the rotor has no more torque and become loose.

        My 2 cents
        Regards

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        • Saltlife716undefined
          Saltlife716
          last edited by

          @Trojan3D:

          Hi Saltlife,
          From what I can see, the temperature is one of the issues, so you should just raise up to 220 degrees minimum if not 230!
          Your extruder is fine printing the skirt because S3D give usually less plastic during the process.
          The temperatures reading change every time from a board to another, it doesn't mean that Duet is wrong, you should try to point an IR probe to the heater and see what is really going on near the nozzle.
          Your extruder shouldn't skip steps as in the video, should grind the filament instead, so, I would raise the current to a decent amount and then step back until the motor is running fairly warm if you don't know the motor technical details.
          The motor is not retracting, is just the effect of the stall, the filament act as a spring as your is a Bowden and the pressure is just doing that because the moment your motor stall, the rotor has no more torque and become loose.

          My 2 cents
          Regards

          I will try raising the temp to 220 when I get home and see if that works. Thanks.

          BI v2\. 5 Heavily modded
          Duet Wifi
          E3D v6 0.20mm
          FSR autoleveling

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators
            last edited by

            @Saltlife716:

            So should I save the M303 results even thou it says something about 400c?

            Just to clarify this message means that if the heater cartridge is allowed to draw full power, with no control, it could reach about 440C. This is not a configured parameter its a warning generated to make you aware that the max temperature if the control fails could get to a dangerous level. This is not control electronics specific but dependent on the heater cartridge, your power supply voltage, and the cooling rate of the heatblock (which is changed by having a silicone sock on it).

            So yes you should save the results using M303, and also be aware that an electronics failure could lead to a very hot hotend!

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
              last edited by

              Actually 440C is not nearly as hot as I sometimes hear reported, in particular nowhere near hot enough to melt the aluminium.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • Saltlife716undefined
                Saltlife716
                last edited by

                Ok I'll redo the PID test and save it then. But guys.. Listen to this. Trojan3D was on point with the hotend temp…

                I ended up buying a brand new spool of Hatchbox filament, loaded it up, set temp to 200c. It worked PERFECTLY... Put in the old filament at 200c, then I got the same problem, brought the temp up to 220, and it started printing perfectly...

                So my problem was, for some reason, this PLA (and other PLA of same brand) needed to be at 220c in order to print correctly..

                BI v2\. 5 Heavily modded
                Duet Wifi
                E3D v6 0.20mm
                FSR autoleveling

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                • Saltlife716undefined
                  Saltlife716
                  last edited by

                  And yes all of my filament rolls are in individual 2 gallon ziplocs bags with the "keep dry" packs in them.

                  BI v2\. 5 Heavily modded
                  Duet Wifi
                  E3D v6 0.20mm
                  FSR autoleveling

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                  • Trojan3Dundefined
                    Trojan3D
                    last edited by

                    Heiii,
                    Glad it worked at the end,
                    So all good, that´s what matter!!
                    Regards
                    Emanuel

                    PS. how can i post some pictures here?
                    thanks

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      To post pictures, host them on a public file sharing site and place the URL between img tags. If hosting them on Dropbox, replace "?dl=0" at the end of the URL by "?raw=1".

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Trojan3Dundefined
                        Trojan3D
                        last edited by

                        Thank you very much!!
                        Cheers

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