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    • BikingVikingundefined
      BikingViking
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      It's a bit of a different level of investment if you don't have a system up and running, but I have the printer on a z-wave plug which also monitors power consumption (bit of an eye opener) simplifies setup a fair bit.

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      • DjDemonDundefined
        DjDemonD
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        Sure thats one way of doing it and I think asking David to consider some sort of interface to radio switched plugs/alexa etc. could be a great addition. But I'm just considering simple M80 for on and M81 for off setup. I have 3 machines running duet board now so a simple solution is what I'm after. I have a power monitor running to the bench for all my printers it is interesting I agree.

        If powering the duet from external 5v should we use the 5v & GND pins in the PS_ON header? Or can plugging in a usb charger/adaptor to the usb port suffice long term?

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          You can feed power via the USB port or the external 5V connector (the one with the PS_ON pin), it makes no difference.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • DjDemonDundefined
            DjDemonD
            last edited by

            Thank you. 🙂

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            • Cataundefined
              Cata
              last edited by

              Share the results and diagrams if works. I'm thinking on use a similirar relay board with ps_on pins of the duet to fire the camera button and makes timelapses

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              • DjDemonDundefined
                DjDemonD
                last edited by

                I'm still none the wiser as to how best to connect it. It seems some of these relay modules can accept a high or low signal, so set to low, I would expect you can ground the IN pin on the relay to the PS_ON pin on the duet to trigger it. For those relay modules which only accept a high signal then if PS_ON goes to ground when M80 is sent, I think it might be best to use something like a logic inverter to reverse the signal. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOGIC-SINGLE-INVERTER-GATE-5SC70-Part-SN74LVC1GU04DCKT/351615798176?epid=1339373369&hash=item51ddef4ba0:g:QM8AAOxy8HlSa77O

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by

                  If you choose a relay module with an optically isolated input, then it will hopefully have + and - control input terminals separate from the power supply terminals. In which case you can connect the input terminals to +3.3V or +3V and PS_ON.

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                  • Cataundefined
                    Cata
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                    To use it as a camera trigger, I need to execute m80 and followed by m81. What interval would I have if I put them one below the other in the gcode?

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      More than a microsecond, but possibly less than a millisecond.

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                      • Cataundefined
                        Cata
                        last edited by

                        I can't tell if that is a joke or not. I will read about gcode waits and try to trigger the camera without the duet first

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                        • DjDemonDundefined
                          DjDemonD
                          last edited by

                          Okay so I've settled on this one:


                          So to make this work, I would hook up +5v from the duet to both VCC and CH1 pins, then GND to PS_ON?

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by

                            No. Please post a photo of the back of the board with better lighting and focus, so that I can see the PCB traces clearly.

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                            • DjDemonDundefined
                              DjDemonD
                              last edited by

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
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                                The traces still are not very clear. But I think that CH1 and GND are the input signal, connected to the input of the opto coupler through a series resistor, while VCC and RGND provide power to the relay. If that's the case, connect VCC to +5V and RGND to ground. Connect GND to the Duet PS_ON output, and connect CH1 to either +5V or +3.3V.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                • DjDemonDundefined
                                  DjDemonD
                                  last edited by

                                  Okay thanks David. I'll have a play with it on the bench before connecting it to a duet board.

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                                  • DjDemonDundefined
                                    DjDemonD
                                    last edited by

                                    Okay so it did end up working as I had suggested originally, I spoke to the vendor who said to ignore RGND and use VCC, GND, CH1 pins. In fact it did not seem to matter whether PS_ON is connected to GND or RGND so I presume they are tied. So connecting VCC and CH1 tied to +5v on expansion connector and then GND to PS_ON switches the relay on M80, and off on M81.

                                    Nice bright LED too if you are going to put it under a cover of some sort it will shine through. Mine is going to live under the PSU end cover which keeps small fingers off the 240v wiring.

                                    Available here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-3V-5V-10A-Relay-Module-for-Arduino-Nano-Due-Raspberry-Pi-ESP8266-Optocoupler/272272819712?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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                                    • Cataundefined
                                      Cata
                                      last edited by

                                      Why dont connect the 5v/CH1 to the 5v on ps_on header?

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                                      • DjDemonDundefined
                                        DjDemonD
                                        last edited by

                                        Because and it took me a few minutes to work this out yesterday, its a 5v input pin, not 5v output! There is a diode on it.

                                        Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
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                                        • Cataundefined
                                          Cata
                                          last edited by

                                          Ok ok. Then 5v/CH1 go in any 5v output and gnd to ps_on.

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                                          • DjDemonDundefined
                                            DjDemonD
                                            last edited by

                                            By any I presume it will have to be either the 5v output from your 5v power source for the duet board, or from the board itself with the ext-5v jumper attached. Otherwise the relay wouldn't have a ground.

                                            Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
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