Installed SmartEffector unable to keep its horizon

c310 · 25 Feb 2018, 10:03

Please help!

as an upgrade stage i have replaced ordinary effector with smart one and made required changes to config.g
also rods have been changed from non-magnetic to Haydn's Carbon Fiber Arms

however, even within auto calibration SmartEffector is not able to keep its horizon.
here is a video illustrating the issue –> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jdFOudeWV0

my guess was in M665 , but i double checked sizes and it seems to be fine (or i completely misunderstand delta geometry terms)

related part of config is below.

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G21 ; Work in millimetres
G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes forwards (extruder)
M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1 ; set endstop configuration (all endstops at high end, active high)

M665 R91 L288.17 B75 H145 ; set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height

M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
M92 X80 Y80 Z80 ; Set axis steps/mm
M906 X1250 Y1250 Z1250 E1250 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) 85% of rated.increase idle current to 30%
M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 ; Accelerations (mm/s^2)
M203 X20000 Y20000 Z20000 E3600 ; Maximum speeds (mm/min)
M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 ; Maximum instant speed changes mm/minute
M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; Define tool 0: uses extruder 0,heater 1 and fan 0
G10 P0 S0 R0 ; Set tool 0 operating and standby temperatures
M92 E87
M558 P5 R0.4 F1000 ; Z probe is a smart effector
G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 ; Set the z-probe height and threshold
M557 R80 S20 ; set bed size for mesh probe
;*** If you are using axis compensation, put the figures in the following command
M556 S78 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Axis compensation here
M208 S1 Z-0.2 ; set minimum Z
T0 ; select first hot end
M501 ; Load config-override.g
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and bed.g

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M561 ; clear any bed transform, otherwise homing may be at the wrong height
G31 X0 Y0 ; don't want any probe offset for this
G28 ; home the printer
G28 ; fool-safe against endstop problem
G30 P0 X0 Y0 Z-99999
G30 P0 X-73.6 Y-42.5 Z-99999 ; X tower
G30 P1 X0 Y-73.6 Z-99999 ; between X and Y towers
G30 P2 X73.6 Y-42.5 Z-99999 ; Y tower
G30 P3 X73.6 Y20 Z-99999 ; between Y and Z towers
G30 P4 X0 Y67 Z-99999 ; Z tower
G30 P5 X-73.6 Y20 Z-99999 ; between Z and X towers
G30 P6 X-36.8 Y-21.25 Z-99999 ; half way to X tower
G30 P7 X36.8 Y-21.25 Z-99999 ; half way to Y tower
G30 P8 X0 Y42.5 Z-99999 ; half way to Z tower
G30 P9 X0 Y0 Z-99999 S6 ; centre, and auto-calibrate 6 factors
G1 X0 Y0 Z150 F15000 ; get the head out of the way of the bed
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Dougal1957 · 25 Feb 2018, 10:06

easy fix rotate the effector by 60 degrees the arms need to be the same distance apart at both ends of them ie parallel to each other.

c310 · 25 Feb 2018, 10:31

Douglas1957,

the arms need to be the same distance apart at both ends of them

that is in place. in other words before calibration effector is in the center and arm are as parallel as it is possible
also magnet polarity makes bottom parts of paired rods to attract each other…

Dougal1957 · 25 Feb 2018, 10:42

but your arms are not parallel to each other they need to be 55mm apart on the face that is towards each tower yours seem to come from the carriage on the tower to the short face on the effector instead of the wide space that they need to

dc42 · 25 Feb 2018, 10:46

@c310:

Douglas1957,

the arms need to be the same distance apart at both ends of them

that is in place. in other words before calibration effector is in the center and arm are as parallel as it is possible
also magnet polarity makes bottom parts of paired rods to attract each other…

No it isn't. From the video, the two arms to each tower are clearly not parallel. You have the two rods from each tower going to two ball studs that are close to each other; whereas they should go to ball studs on either end of a long edge of the effector. This is what it should look like from the top:

Dougal1957 · 25 Feb 2018, 10:48

Thank you David I thought That I may have confused myself then

PS Which hot end have you got on that ?

c310 · 25 Feb 2018, 10:58

oh my god!! now its much stable. thanks!!!

UPD: i have added related picture and text to the WiKi. hope that is allowed :))

Dougal1957 · 25 Feb 2018, 11:00

@c310:

oh my god!! now its much stable. thanks!!!

Its a very easy mistake to make and One I have seen before.

c310 · 25 Feb 2018, 11:15

https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer

Dougal1957 · 25 Feb 2018, 11:48

@c310:

https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer

Yes I know that and I have 2 of them my Q re the hotend was aimed to the Pic that David uploaded as that is different but I suspect it may be from an early prototype and I was just Curious

Doug

dc42 · 25 Feb 2018, 12:35

Yes the image I posted was a prototype and didn't have the connectors fitted.

Dougal1957 · 25 Feb 2018, 13:38

Thanks for Confirming that David guessed it was with the 3 hole mounting, was just curious in case you had been testing a different type of Hotend.

I also see that E3D Are putting the Duet heatsink style out to the wider public for beta testing and feedback!

Doug

T3P3Tony · 25 Feb 2018, 16:30

@c310:

oh my god!! now its much stable. thanks!!!

UPD: i have added related picture and text to the WiKi. hope that is allowed :))

Thanks for updating the wiki