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    • RGN01undefined
      RGN01
      last edited by

      Thanks, David, that is the side I'm mounting this over. On the Volcano version the Noctua is near the SMD devices (but just outside the extent of the PCB) but the blower fan further away so I guess it depends on how much EMF the Noctua radiates.

      On the standard v6 version, the Noctua is directly over the SMD devices. This is very easy to redesign and extend further out but will be a good test of the electrical quietness of the Noctua fans.

      I'm looking forward to trying these - the part I'm not looking forward to is opening up the base of my delta to change the fans from 24V to 12V even though the electrical change is simple!

      Richard

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      • Nuvagundefined
        Nuvag
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        Noctua fans with high pressure are my favourites, too. If these were only available in 24V 😞
        It might be possible to use a 12V z-diode attached on the fan cables to reduce the voltage from 24V to 12V, so the other parts can still work with 24V.

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        • RGN01undefined
          RGN01
          last edited by

          It is easy with the Duet - all I need do there is remove the jumper on the Duet and add a 12V positive to the centre pin (V_Fan) . It is opening the box up that I'm not looking forward to!

          Richard

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          • Dougal1957undefined
            Dougal1957
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            one thing else I have just noticed on your effector is that the fibre washer is meant to go on the top side under the nut not where you have it and I suspect your heatsink is very well constrained as you have it cos the 12mm locating ring isn't in the pub.

            Doug

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            • RGN01undefined
              RGN01
              last edited by

              Thanks, Doug, I've sorted it now - I should have checked the manual!

              Richard

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                Noctua makes 5V fans too, so another option is to use 5V fans throughout.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • RGN01undefined
                  RGN01
                  last edited by

                  @dc42:

                  Noctua makes 5V fans too, so another option is to use 5V fans throughout.

                  My Duet cooling fans are 12V so it is easy to do - once I get the case opened (and that is nothing to do with the Duet, it is all my own doing!)

                  Richard

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                  • RGN01undefined
                    RGN01
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                    Here is my 'final' (is anything ever final in 3D printing? 🙂 ) design for the Volcano. Still to be tested on the printer.

                    Perspective is misleading in that last photo - the Noctua fan inner edge is parallel with the edge of the board.

                    I will add a printed retaining mount to the blower fan and then a set of aluminium tusks for layer cooling.

                    The only place this mount touches the PCB is on the 4 11mm nut retaining tabs. It barely touches the heatsink so I'm not expecting it to degrade probing.

                    Richard

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                    • RGN01undefined
                      RGN01
                      last edited by

                      Now fully loaded and waiting for me to convert the fan supply on the Duet to 12V

                      I must only still add the tusks to the fan - a 6mm aluminium tube either side should be easily achievable, I think.

                      Should be interesting to test it.

                      Richard

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                      • c310undefined
                        c310
                        last edited by

                        as an option i have created 40 mm fan bracket to replace original one (30*30)
                        it fits with original model cooling fan duct.

                        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2822678

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                        • Nuvagundefined
                          Nuvag
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                          Nice!
                          I'm just printing one and found two minor problems:

                          • Simplify3D hangs up if using more than 2 perimeters (tried multiple times)
                          • The text on the side is too small to be printed, there are only artefacts visible
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                          • Nuvagundefined
                            Nuvag
                            last edited by

                            Just mounted it and fits perfectly, thx c310!
                            Additionally it doesn't interfere with the touch sensor like the 30mm fan did, so no need to turn the fan of during autocalibrating

                            I'm slightly worried it could slip down, would be nice if it had a hinge above the top most full cooling fin of the heatsink and prevents it from slipping down.

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                            • RGN01undefined
                              RGN01
                              last edited by

                              My development and testing is delayed as I'm waiting for a new Nimble for the Volcano. I'll report back once I receive that and get it mounted.

                              Richard

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                              • Vigilantundefined
                                Vigilant
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                                @RGN01:

                                Now fully loaded and waiting for me to convert the fan supply on the Duet to 12V

                                https://i.imgur.com/fsleZj7l.jpg

                                https://i.imgur.com/cLcZwSfl.jpg

                                https://i.imgur.com/svgvfvgl.jpg

                                https://i.imgur.com/E5TOV7Sl.jpg

                                https://i.imgur.com/uBTwwtyl.jpg

                                I must only still add the tusks to the fan - a 6mm aluminium tube either side should be easily achievable, I think.

                                Should be interesting to test it.

                                Richard

                                I'm using a 40mm fan duct adapter , and I noticed that the nimble mount nut below is blocking it from being mounted properly. How are you mounting the nimble?, are you using a nut? Do you have the STL for this ?

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                                • RGN01undefined
                                  RGN01
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                                  My Nimble is mounted using one of the adapters from Shapeways, 3mm cap screws and 1/2 nuts below the board. My design incorporates a recess for the one bolt and nut.

                                  Yes, I have the STL (it is my design) but it is untested at this time as I need to wait for another Nimble and have to convert the fan voltage to 12V from 24V. I hope to do that this weekend.

                                  I'm happy to put the STL on Thingiverse on the understanding it is still WIP. Which one are you interested in? The one for the v6, or the Volcano one with layer fan?

                                  Richard

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                                  • RGN01undefined
                                    RGN01
                                    last edited by

                                    Update:

                                    I have now finalised the design for the duct and it works well on both my Smart Effectors using 40 x 10mm Noctua fans.

                                    I decided to go with the BerdAir type approach as the Smart Effector became too cluttered with the layer fans on it. I'm still working on the piping and mounts for these.

                                    See the 40mm fan duct here https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2844881

                                    Richard

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                                    • Mystaundefined
                                      Mysta
                                      last edited by

                                      @RGN01:

                                      Update:

                                      I have now finalised the design for the duct and it works well on both my Smart Effectors using 40 x 10mm Noctua fans.

                                      I decided to go with the BerdAir type approach as the Smart Effector became too cluttered with the layer fans on it. I'm still working on the piping and mounts for these.

                                      See the 40mm fan duct here https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2844881

                                      Richard

                                      I commented on the thingiverse post as well but wanted to mention here I printed the berd adapter and the 40*20 fan duct, everything went well(though leveling them was a pain) used supports. The cylinder around the heatsink was a little brittle - slightly broke it when I was removing supports but could be my PETG print settings.

                                      Here was my orientation(tested the other adapter too) https://i.imgur.com/mXVaazo.png

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                                      • RGN01undefined
                                        RGN01
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks for reporting back. Try printing with the feet on the bed - mine prints perfectly like that with support only on the bed.

                                        I've also uploaded a STL file for the combination of the duct and BerdAir tube mount.

                                        Richard

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                                        • RGN01undefined
                                          RGN01
                                          last edited by

                                          I've uploaded an improved version for the BerdAir type cooling. It only needs support on the bed - I've included sacrificial support for the rest of it.

                                          Mine prints perfectly in PETG with only minimal support plastic to remove.

                                          Richard

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                                          • benkayundefined
                                            benkay
                                            last edited by

                                            Looks great. With the new easy-print version for berd-air….is this file universal for standard v6 and volcano?

                                            Tevo Little monster with Duet Wifi and Smart Effector / magball arms upgrades.
                                            Original Prusa i3 Mk3

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