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    • mlbuxbaumundefined
      mlbuxbaum
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      just checked impedance on the stepper while still connected to the DUET. Coil 1 reads .887MΩ and coil 2 reads 1.2Ω. Think my driver is bad? I checked the stepper motor and both measure the same impedance.

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      • dc42undefined
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        @mlbuxbaum said in Extruder "fighting" itself?:

        just checked impedance on the stepper while still connected to the DUET. Coil 1 reads .887MΩ and coil 2 reads 1.2Ω. Think my driver is bad? I checked the stepper motor and both measure the same impedance.

        If coil 1 read .887Mohms than you have an intermittent connection between wherever you touched your multimeter probes and the stepper motor coil.

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        • mlbuxbaumundefined
          mlbuxbaum
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          hooked wires up directly, bypassing terminal block connector and still getting the "fighting" Could this be a firmware issue?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators @mlbuxbaum
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            @mlbuxbaum said in Extruder "fighting" itself?:

            hooked wires up directly, bypassing terminal block connector and still getting the "fighting" Could this be a firmware issue?

            Unlikely unless you have set the acceleration or speed much too high. It sounds like a bad connection, faulty motor or a blown driver. Your reading of .887Mohms definitely means you had a bad connection or a faulty motor at that point. Can you test the driver by connecting a different motor to it, using a different cable?

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            • mlbuxbaumundefined
              mlbuxbaum @dc42
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              @dc42 said in Extruder "fighting" itself?:

              @mlbuxbaum said in Extruder "fighting" itself?:

              hooked wires up directly, bypassing terminal block connector and still getting the "fighting" Could this be a firmware issue?

              Unlikely unless you have set the acceleration or speed much too high. It sounds like a bad connection, faulty motor or a blown driver. Your reading of .887Mohms definitely means you had a bad connection or a faulty motor at that point. Can you test the driver by connecting a different motor to it, using a different cable?

              I have the wires directly connected together, and it was working prior to yesterday when I uploaded firmware again. I have also tried 3 separate steppers. Can I use extruder 2 to test? How do I activate that driver and set it up in firmware?

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              • gen2engundefined
                gen2eng
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                For what it's worth, I've seen two pancake steppers from a well known extruder manufacturer fail.

                One was a short like dc42 is suggesting and the other had weak/failed permanent magnets in the rotor. Running a stepper too hot can cause both failures.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @mlbuxbaum
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                  @mlbuxbaum said in Extruder "fighting" itself?:

                  I have the wires directly connected together, and it was working prior to yesterday when I uploaded firmware again. I have also tried 3 separate steppers. Can I use extruder 2 to test? How do I activate that driver and set it up in firmware?

                  Look up M584 in the GCode wiki page.

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                  • mlbuxbaumundefined
                    mlbuxbaum @dc42
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                    @dc42 said in Extruder "fighting" itself?:

                    @mlbuxbaum said in Extruder "fighting" itself?:

                    I have the wires directly connected together, and it was working prior to yesterday when I uploaded firmware again. I have also tried 3 separate steppers. Can I use extruder 2 to test? How do I activate that driver and set it up in firmware?

                    Look up M584 in the GCode wiki page.

                    That didnt help much.... anyway.
                    How is the duet output color codes? green/black=coil 1 and red/blue=coil 2?

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                    • dc42undefined
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                      @mlbuxbaum said in Extruder "fighting" itself?:

                      How is the duet output color codes? green/black=coil 1 and red/blue=coil 2?

                      That's the normal arrangement for stepper motors, where the wires come straight out of a motor and not via a plug and socket. At the Duet, if you number the connector pins 1234 in order, one coil goes to 1-2 and the other coil goes to 3-4.

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                      • mlbuxbaumundefined
                        mlbuxbaum @dc42
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                        @dc42 thank you

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                        • mlbuxbaumundefined
                          mlbuxbaum
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                          Well, dont I feel like a real idiot.........The red wire on the E0 connector that plugs into the Duet was broken inside the connector. I found when I was moving the connector to E1.....

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