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    • BigPrinterundefined
      BigPrinter
      last edited by BigPrinter

      it has 150mm clearance.
      the latest version of creo gives the ability to change to relative values for the extruder.

      iv now run into different problems. found the extruder was getting much hotter than the target temperature. so i attempted to re-calibrate the thermistor with no luck. when turning on the heater to 180 it would shoot way past 180 and error out. Have ordered some better quality temp sensors and hopefully this will solve my celebration problem.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Have you run a PID tuning cycle on the heater yet?

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

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        • BigPrinterundefined
          BigPrinter
          last edited by

          thanks thats fixed that problem did the auto tuning

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Have the corners improved?

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            • BigPrinterundefined
              BigPrinter
              last edited by

              Big improimprovement origanaly it was sewing out now there a little bit of overshoot?

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              • BigPrinterundefined
                BigPrinter
                last edited by

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  It looks like it's over extruding. You can test by reducing your extruder 100% in the DWC during a print.

                  What is your extruder configuration?

                  It might help to go through a tuning guide, such as...

                  http://reprap.org/wiki/Triffid_Hunter's_Calibration_Guide

                  That will get your hardware parameters into accurate software settings.

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                  • BigPrinterundefined
                    BigPrinter
                    last edited by

                    So back to this problem i have sorted out the extrusion rate so that its not over-extruding on long lines. But when it comes to doing ziz-zag infill or where the machine slows for corners i get over-extrusion as seen in previews post. I believe this is where the extruder rate is not slowing to match the speed of the print head as it Accelerates/decelerates at the end of straight travel. This is particularly bad for short zig-zag infill as the head never gets to full speed but the excess is still noticeable at the start and end of longer travels. So does the firm where compensate for this? Can the extruder velocity be proportional to the head instanious velocity or does it assume a very high rate of acceleration which makes this unnecessary in most physical designs and is only a problem in our build because we are starting with a very heavy cnc router. Hoping to hear that the compensation is built in and we just haven't enabled it or tuned it.

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                    • BigPrinterundefined
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                      • BigPrinterundefined
                        BigPrinter
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                        • Phaedruxundefined
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                          I think you can compensate for this over extrusion somewhat with pressure advance.

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Pressure_advance

                          There is the relevant documentation.

                          Basically it will try to take into account the elasticity of the molten filament and adjust the extrusion feed rate dynamically. It may take some tuning but I think this is exactly what you want.

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                          • BigPrinterundefined
                            BigPrinter
                            last edited by

                            Will give it a go as I respect your knowledge, though we had assumed this was not a major contributor to the problem because we are not using a bowden cable, and the e-3d head we are using has a relatively short distance between the drive wheel and the hot end. Will let you know what we discover.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by Phaedrux

                              For a direct drive extruder like the Titan Aero like I see in your picture can still benefit from pressure advance. A value of 0.05 works well for me with PLA.

                              Your prints are starting to look pretty good.

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