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    • joshc4566undefined
      joshc4566 @JoergS5
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      @joergs5 I really don't think it could be the filament warping. It has happened with multiple filaments, and multiple materials. The printer is locked away in a closet under the stairs like Harry Potter. Lol so no windows or anything like that that could cause a draft.

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      • JoergS5undefined
        JoergS5
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        Can you find a systematic relationship between short/gaps with a specific position of the delta printer? If yes, there must be a difference between the axes or the print bed.

        If you want, you can try a detailed calibration:
        https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2722557

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        • JoergS5undefined
          JoergS5
          last edited by JoergS5

          In the think one commentator had a non flat bed at one corner. This is a possibility also.

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          • joshc4566undefined
            joshc4566 @JoergS5
            last edited by

            @joergs5 it theoretically could be warped, but it's a circular mirror, and happens on all areas on the bed. And a G29 produces a pretty nice grid.

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            • JoergS5undefined
              JoergS5 @joshc4566
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              @joshc4566 I searched for "delta printer different x y" and found some information interesting:

              comments of hercek:
              https://reprap.org/forum/read.php?178,380688,381527

              comments of Doug LaRue:
              https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/deltabot/q65tcjykI4k

              Found additional possible reasons, e.g. that the J-Head must be mounted straight and you should calibrate with autoleveling off.

              Maybe you find something.

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              • JoergS5undefined
                JoergS5 @joshc4566
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                @joshc4566 this is also interesing:

                https://forum.repetier.com/discussion/2294/the-x-y-size-are-different-with-z-coordinate-for-1cm-cube-delta-3d-printer

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                • JoergS5undefined
                  JoergS5 @joshc4566
                  last edited by JoergS5

                  @joshc4566 a very interesing calibration guide, with Duet3D correction codes:

                  http://www.sublimelayers.com/2018/03/musing-how-to-print-accurate-parts.html

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                  • joshc4566undefined
                    joshc4566 @JoergS5
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                    @joergs5 that's a pretty awesome article. I might try that, but since my issue isn't consistent across the print bed, I think it will only help on smaller objects. I'm going to re-print some parts, tear it down and rebuilt again. Just to eliminate any discrepancies in the adapters for my magball ends I may have. Also, how important is 100% even belt tension?

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                    • JoergS5undefined
                      JoergS5 @joshc4566
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                      @joshc4566 as far as I know, it is not important, because every belt has its own stepper and they are independent. It is important to have enough tension to avoid backlash.

                      At CoreXY printers it is important because the XY steppers are correlated.

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                      • JoergS5undefined
                        JoergS5 @joshc4566
                        last edited by JoergS5

                        @joshc4566 my main bet is that the aluminium extruders are not perpendicular, i. e. they are not parallel to each other. The difference of the printed object is in the whole object, but is small enough to not being visible in the middle (because the rods are in middle height position), and at the edges one of the rods is at high position and error is maximized.

                        To measure parallelity of the aluminium extrusions, you could use your linear guides: connect them pairwise with a horizontal shaft where the rods are connected, and move the guides up and down. If this stucks, you know that they are not parallel. Repeat it for all three combinations.

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                        • joshc4566undefined
                          joshc4566 @JoergS5
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                          @joergs5 sorry for the huge delay! It's been a crazy busy month. I went and got married and had my honeymoon band have been out of the game for a month, but I'm ready to come back at it strong! I can't really seem to find much I'm the way of the extrusions being off from each other. I can't really connect the carriages to see if they bind, but using my metric tape and digital angle gauge, everything seems to be super square. I've even replaced the vslot wheels and bearings.

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                          • JoergS5undefined
                            JoergS5 @joshc4566
                            last edited by JoergS5

                            @joshc4566 Congratulations for you marriage, I wish you all the best!

                            Regarding the printer, I would search for differences first:

                            • is there play (backlash) in the connections
                            • something not flat
                            • lengths, even if sub mm
                            • stepper speed settings (you can slow down printing in case one of your steppers looses steps). You can exchange the steppers (I mean exchange the existing ones) in case one is defect or inaccurate a bit
                            • every pulley, belt etc. fixed
                            • belt tensions

                            Maybe this link and their sublinks are helpful:
                            https://www.3dhubs.com/talk/thread/delta-printer-printing-dimensions-wrong

                            There are Tevo Little Monster specific calibration on thingiverse:
                            https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2722557
                            esp. the forum links with some additional ideas.

                            And Duets own know how page:
                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer

                            Hope something helps, as I cannot help you directly.

                            PS I forgot: please make sure by using one of the calibration tools on thingiverse that your stl file is not the cause.... this would be a bit annoying.

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                            • JoergS5undefined
                              JoergS5 @joshc4566
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                              @joshc4566 This user had problems on one side of the print also:
                              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/5119/tevo-little-monster-mesh-grid-results
                              Maybe you find your reason in this thread.

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                              • JoergS5undefined
                                JoergS5 @joshc4566
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                                @joshc4566 Here is another interesting blog:
                                https://tevo-3d-printers.com/viewtopic.php?t=295
                                Even differences of 0.1 mm matter!

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