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    • Mystaundefined
      Mysta
      last edited by

      Running Duet Wifi + Smart Effector. Was using berd air and swapped to a fan. I bought 5 brushless fans from digikey(24v). Put one on hot end cooling, worked, put one on the print cooling, didn't work, troubleshooting for a bit and thought the effecor was messed up, but tried another fan just as a test, that worked(left it on for a few mins too). Great, put the other fan on. Went to test again and it started to turn on, then didn't. Any ideas? It's getting 24V when I turn it on fully.(the pins on reverse side of connector)

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      • dc42undefined
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        Are you commanding it fully on, or with reduced PWM? Some fans don't work well with PWM.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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        • Mystaundefined
          Mysta
          last edited by

          Tried both, no luck

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          • Mystaundefined
            Mysta
            last edited by Mysta

            Went back after a while and still starts to move then doesn't. So strange. Here is the fan I bought, the tach is not connected.

            I did notice this the other day, what's it's role?

            0_1534729824824_20180819_214902.jpg

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              That's the series resistor for the illumination LEDs. If R8 is charred but R9 isn't, that suggests you are using greater than 12V power but you didn't remove jumper JP3.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • adavidmundefined
                adavidm
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                Have you tried running the fan away from the effector (specifically the magnets)? You have to be careful with the orientation of the magnets to get the fan to run reliably. Caught me out.

                adavidm

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                • adavidmundefined
                  adavidm @Mysta
                  last edited by adavidm

                  @mysta said in Weird issue with fan:

                  I did notice this the other day, what's it's role?

                  0_1534775660878_5933fabe-2f90-4852-8661-1e4bf9d11188-image.png

                  Looks like R8 is part of the LED circuitry, driven by the Hotend Fan connections.

                  edit- sorry, did not see dc42's reply

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                  • Mystaundefined
                    Mysta
                    last edited by

                    So only effects the fan LED. Yeah I did run it away and it ran, so you're saying I need to move the fan further? or is there a way to shield it?

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                    • dc42undefined
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                      Check that the magnetic rods are installed with alternate N and S poles around the effector. That reduces the stray magnetic field.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Mystaundefined
                        Mysta @dc42
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                        @dc42 said in Weird issue with fan:

                        Check that the magnetic rods are installed with alternate N and S poles around the effector. That reduces the stray magnetic field.

                        Wow, flipping one single rod fixed it. That's crazy.

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                        • ShadowXundefined
                          ShadowX
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                          Yup... Strong magnets will do that. Wait till you troubleshoot a BL touch and it turns out the problems were due to magnets affecting the sensor. That was a painful lesson for me. Unfortunately, I can't just flip the rods. All my magnets are orientated same direction when I put the rods together to make sure they were all consistent.

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