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    • blulaserstarundefined
      blulaserstar
      last edited by

      I have done another test!
      With my gcode at 230° i have set manually the duet at 245, i hope that the more gap by the machine and gcode help the tollerance of heater fault. But no!!! The machine Stop after 2 minute of work. But if i use the same file and not load the filament, this problem disappear

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      • wilrikerundefined
        wilriker @blulaserstar
        last edited by wilriker

        @blulaserstar Just guessing here: it might be that with your rather large nozzle the heater cannot keep up against the "cold" filament. Have you tried reducing print speed? This would also reduce the amount of plastic pushed into the hotend in the same amount of time and would therefore have a lower cooling effect.

        Manuel
        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
        My Tool Collection

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        • Dougal1957undefined
          Dougal1957
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          Have you PID Tuned the heater as well?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            1. Run PID tuning on the heater, if you haven't already.

            2. 10 minutes before the heater shuts down, it should pause the print with a message about the heater fault. Did it do that, and if so what was the heater fault message?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • blulaserstarundefined
              blulaserstar
              last edited by

              OK i have try to do this:
              nozzle diameter: 0,80
              extrusion multiplier: before was 1 now 0,80
              Extrusion with: before was 0,96 now 0,90
              First layer speed: before was 80% now 65%
              Speed: i have tryed 30mms, 40mms, 50mms.

              But always at 0:9 minuts the error jump!!!

              For the PID, i have controlled this parameters on config:

              ; Heaters;
              M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
              M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
              M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
              M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
              M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
              M143 H2 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

              Alway always stop at 0.9minut

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              • wilrikerundefined
                wilriker @blulaserstar
                last edited by

                @blulaserstar said in Duet Wifi strange error : Heater fault:

                For the PID, i have controlled this parameters on config:

                ; Heaters;
                M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
                M143 H2 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

                There are no PID tuned values in there. They would start with M307. Did you perform M303: Run heater tuning?

                Manuel
                Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                My Tool Collection

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                • blulaserstarundefined
                  blulaserstar
                  last edited by

                  No i didn't perform m303 run heater tuning, i'm try to understand the guide that you have link to me. Really thanks

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                  • blulaserstarundefined
                    blulaserstar
                    last edited by

                    ok i have tryed to do but, is not easy 😉 now when io check the tune:

                    M303
                    Heater 1 tuning failed

                    Grrrrrr i hope to do 😞

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @blulaserstar
                      last edited by

                      @blulaserstar said in Duet Wifi strange error : Heater fault:

                      M303
                      Heater 1 tuning failed

                      Is that all? It usually says why it failed.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • blulaserstarundefined
                        blulaserstar
                        last edited by

                        alt text

                        but i'm not sure that i have done the right things:

                        alt text

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman
                          last edited by deckingman

                          M303 on it's own simply reports the status of the last heater tune. To tune the heater you need to specify which heater, the PWM valuer to use (usually 1.0 which is the default) and the target temperature. So use something like M303 H1 S270. Once the tuning has completed successfully, you need to use M307 to add the A, C and D paramters into you configuration file, either use M500 to put them into config.overide.g or enter the values directly into config.g. See here https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

                          Ian
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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            You need to send those M303 commands from the console, not in config.g. It will go through a PWM tuning routine and will result in values appropriate for your heater to maintain your requested temperature. Those values will then go into your config, either by manually entering them into config.g or by saving them with M500 so they automatically go into config-override.g Doing it that way will require M501 at the end of config.g to load the values from config-override.g

                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control#Section_Setting_the_model_parameters_by_auto_tuning

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                            • blulaserstarundefined
                              blulaserstar
                              last edited by

                              ok really really thanks for your help. i have done the auto tune only the first one don't show me error the other: alt text
                              alt text
                              but i have done the M307 H2 and show: alt text So i have do M500 and on config i have write:
                              M307 H2 A537.6 C202.5 D5.9 B0

                              But now i have a problem: when i select my tool and i do: G10 P1 S230 nothing is happen!!! I have try to delete the row M307 H2 A537.6 C202.5 D5.9 B0 on my config but no more heate the nozzle!

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                              • blulaserstarundefined
                                blulaserstar
                                last edited by

                                update i have tryed to set 170 as active or standbye temperature, and it work, so I set 180, 190...220 and it work but if i write 230, the H2 go off 😮

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @blulaserstar
                                  last edited by

                                  @blulaserstar said in Duet Wifi strange error : Heater fault:

                                  update i have tryed to set 170 as active or standbye temperature, and it work, so I set 180, 190...220 and it work but if i write 230, the H2 go off 😮

                                  What exactly happens when you try to set 230C: does it start heating but then give you a heating fault? Or does it refuse to heat at all? If it refuses to heat at all, check your M143 H2 temperature limit setting.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • blulaserstarundefined
                                    blulaserstar
                                    last edited by

                                    you are right, i'm sorry, i haven't see that the m143 h2 was 230!
                                    But nothing the printer stop at 9 minuts!!!

                                    I have tryed to do auto tuning at 270° and save with m500 but at 9 minuts stop:
                                    Cancelled printing file sgianpolrotato.gcode, print time was 0h 9m
                                    Error: Shutting down due to un-cleared heater fault after 600 seconds

                                    now i don't really know what can i do!

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      Do you have a M501 command near the end of config.g, so that it runs config-override.g which is where M500 stores the heater tuning results?

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • blulaserstarundefined
                                        blulaserstar
                                        last edited by

                                        yes I have it and keeps giving the same error after 9 minutes

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by dc42

                                          Might you be getting a heater fault right at the start of the print? I suggest you start a print and then look very carefully at status of all heaters reported by DWC.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • blulaserstarundefined
                                            blulaserstar
                                            last edited by

                                            i have look verry verry carefully the DWC here is a screen video me i don't see nothing of strange
                                            Screen capture video

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