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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957
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      Have you PID Tuned the heater as well?

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        1. Run PID tuning on the heater, if you haven't already.

        2. 10 minutes before the heater shuts down, it should pause the print with a message about the heater fault. Did it do that, and if so what was the heater fault message?

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • blulaserstarundefined
          blulaserstar
          last edited by

          OK i have try to do this:
          nozzle diameter: 0,80
          extrusion multiplier: before was 1 now 0,80
          Extrusion with: before was 0,96 now 0,90
          First layer speed: before was 80% now 65%
          Speed: i have tryed 30mms, 40mms, 50mms.

          But always at 0:9 minuts the error jump!!!

          For the PID, i have controlled this parameters on config:

          ; Heaters;
          M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
          M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
          M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
          M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
          M143 H2 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

          Alway always stop at 0.9minut

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          • wilrikerundefined
            wilriker @blulaserstar
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            @blulaserstar said in Duet Wifi strange error : Heater fault:

            For the PID, i have controlled this parameters on config:

            ; Heaters;
            M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
            M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
            M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
            M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
            M305 P2 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 2
            M143 H2 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

            There are no PID tuned values in there. They would start with M307. Did you perform M303: Run heater tuning?

            Manuel
            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
            My Tool Collection

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            • blulaserstarundefined
              blulaserstar
              last edited by

              No i didn't perform m303 run heater tuning, i'm try to understand the guide that you have link to me. Really thanks

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              • blulaserstarundefined
                blulaserstar
                last edited by

                ok i have tryed to do but, is not easy 😉 now when io check the tune:

                M303
                Heater 1 tuning failed

                Grrrrrr i hope to do 😞

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @blulaserstar
                  last edited by

                  @blulaserstar said in Duet Wifi strange error : Heater fault:

                  M303
                  Heater 1 tuning failed

                  Is that all? It usually says why it failed.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • blulaserstarundefined
                    blulaserstar
                    last edited by

                    alt text

                    but i'm not sure that i have done the right things:

                    alt text

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                    • deckingmanundefined
                      deckingman
                      last edited by deckingman

                      M303 on it's own simply reports the status of the last heater tune. To tune the heater you need to specify which heater, the PWM valuer to use (usually 1.0 which is the default) and the target temperature. So use something like M303 H1 S270. Once the tuning has completed successfully, you need to use M307 to add the A, C and D paramters into you configuration file, either use M500 to put them into config.overide.g or enter the values directly into config.g. See here https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control

                      Ian
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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        You need to send those M303 commands from the console, not in config.g. It will go through a PWM tuning routine and will result in values appropriate for your heater to maintain your requested temperature. Those values will then go into your config, either by manually entering them into config.g or by saving them with M500 so they automatically go into config-override.g Doing it that way will require M501 at the end of config.g to load the values from config-override.g

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_heater_temperature_control#Section_Setting_the_model_parameters_by_auto_tuning

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                        • blulaserstarundefined
                          blulaserstar
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                          ok really really thanks for your help. i have done the auto tune only the first one don't show me error the other: alt text
                          alt text
                          but i have done the M307 H2 and show: alt text So i have do M500 and on config i have write:
                          M307 H2 A537.6 C202.5 D5.9 B0

                          But now i have a problem: when i select my tool and i do: G10 P1 S230 nothing is happen!!! I have try to delete the row M307 H2 A537.6 C202.5 D5.9 B0 on my config but no more heate the nozzle!

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                          • blulaserstarundefined
                            blulaserstar
                            last edited by

                            update i have tryed to set 170 as active or standbye temperature, and it work, so I set 180, 190...220 and it work but if i write 230, the H2 go off 😮

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators @blulaserstar
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                              @blulaserstar said in Duet Wifi strange error : Heater fault:

                              update i have tryed to set 170 as active or standbye temperature, and it work, so I set 180, 190...220 and it work but if i write 230, the H2 go off 😮

                              What exactly happens when you try to set 230C: does it start heating but then give you a heating fault? Or does it refuse to heat at all? If it refuses to heat at all, check your M143 H2 temperature limit setting.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • blulaserstarundefined
                                blulaserstar
                                last edited by

                                you are right, i'm sorry, i haven't see that the m143 h2 was 230!
                                But nothing the printer stop at 9 minuts!!!

                                I have tryed to do auto tuning at 270° and save with m500 but at 9 minuts stop:
                                Cancelled printing file sgianpolrotato.gcode, print time was 0h 9m
                                Error: Shutting down due to un-cleared heater fault after 600 seconds

                                now i don't really know what can i do!

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  Do you have a M501 command near the end of config.g, so that it runs config-override.g which is where M500 stores the heater tuning results?

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • blulaserstarundefined
                                    blulaserstar
                                    last edited by

                                    yes I have it and keeps giving the same error after 9 minutes

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                                    alt text

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by dc42

                                      Might you be getting a heater fault right at the start of the print? I suggest you start a print and then look very carefully at status of all heaters reported by DWC.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • blulaserstarundefined
                                        blulaserstar
                                        last edited by

                                        i have look verry verry carefully the DWC here is a screen video me i don't see nothing of strange
                                        Screen capture video

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                                        • Dougal1957undefined
                                          Dougal1957 @blulaserstar
                                          last edited by

                                          @blulaserstar in that video it clearly shows that you have heater faults on Tool0 and the Bed heater they both read 2000C which is normally a open circuit thermistor on those heater you need to either disable them or correct them I bet you are actually getting the print stop at 9:59 secs.

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                                          • blulaserstarundefined
                                            blulaserstar
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dougal1957 nooooooo you aren't say me that the bed heater disconnect make this error????

                                            I don't believe! How do you suggest to disable? by comment the firmware, on config.g?

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