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    • zerspaner_gerdundefined
      zerspaner_gerd @RajaaKahel
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      @rajaakahel said in Setting Z offset for T1:

      G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0.85 ; Set tool 1 axis offsets

      ?????
      If equal to T0 = Z0

      G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0

      Board: Duet WiFi 1.03 | Firmware Version: 3.1.1 | WiFi Server Version: 1.23 | Web Interface Version: 3.1.1

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      • RajaaKahelundefined
        RajaaKahel @zerspaner_gerd
        last edited by

        @zerspaner_gerd Sorry, what do you mean?
        This is my setup, but it doesn't work.
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0.85 ; Set tool 1 axis offsets

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        • RajaaKahelundefined
          RajaaKahel
          last edited by

          @dc42
          I tired all the gcodes that I could use for Z offset (by putting the needed value in the Macro before picking up the tool, and subtracting it after the tool is parked) but I can see nothing is working (I can see in the web-interface the actual Z height).
          Then I choose the value to be 50mm (in case the web-interface does't show the correct current value) but again, no actual Z offset is applied!
          What's going on please!

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators
            last edited by

            If you do a tool change what happens to the z height of the bed/z axis?

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            • RajaaKahelundefined
              RajaaKahel @T3P3Tony
              last edited by

              @t3p3tony During a tool change I see the Z moves a bit from the nozzle by about 0.4mm or something.

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators @RajaaKahel
                last edited by

                @rajaakahel are you sure it's not moving 0.85mm as you have configured?

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                • RajaaKahelundefined
                  RajaaKahel @T3P3Tony
                  last edited by

                  @t3p3tony Yes I'm sure, check the picture, now I tried again with 50mm Z offset for T1, but nothing happens..0_1535113744985_Screen Shot 2018-08-24 at 2.26.37 PM.png

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                  • RajaaKahelundefined
                    RajaaKahel @T3P3Tony
                    last edited by

                    @t3p3tony Now during the last test:
                    "I tried again with 50mm Z offset for T1"
                    Something very strange happened!
                    First T0 was printing, then the tool changed to T1 (nothing happened, no Z offset) but then when the tool changed back to T0 the bed moved by about 50mm down and went back to continue printing.
                    After that and before that it didn't move down by 50mm at all.

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                    • zerspaner_gerdundefined
                      zerspaner_gerd @RajaaKahel
                      last edited by

                      @RajaaKahel

                      After the tool change, a Z value must be present, otherwise the axis will not be approached.

                      Part of my tool change script from S3D:

                      T[new_tool] ; New Tool
                      
                      G1 X[next_position_x] Y[next_position_y] Z[next_position_z] F9000

                      Board: Duet WiFi 1.03 | Firmware Version: 3.1.1 | WiFi Server Version: 1.23 | Web Interface Version: 3.1.1

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                      • RajaaKahelundefined
                        RajaaKahel @zerspaner_gerd
                        last edited by

                        @zerspaner_gerd My problem is that Duet is not applying the offset I want for T1. It's ignoring it. Through G10 in config.g and through any other command anywhere else.
                        Also it's acting weird if you read my last comment.

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                        • zerspaner_gerdundefined
                          zerspaner_gerd @RajaaKahel
                          last edited by

                          @rajaakahel For me, the z-offset works, why should not it work for you?

                          Share your gcode, maybe I can find an explanation!

                          Which firmware version do you use?

                          Board: Duet WiFi 1.03 | Firmware Version: 3.1.1 | WiFi Server Version: 1.23 | Web Interface Version: 3.1.1

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                          • RajaaKahelundefined
                            RajaaKahel @zerspaner_gerd
                            last edited by

                            @zerspaner_gerd 0_1535130513803_8.gcode

                            Macros:
                            https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Nwte-EtKEzL_ogCqJp7PMQ2qsLK7RBkM

                            Configurations:
                            https://drive.google.com/open?id=1q-h8eojJ91CQwK2p5YhWKuQaQph0sQ_T

                            Here's everything.. I'd appreciate it if you or anyone could find anything!

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                            • zerspaner_gerdundefined
                              zerspaner_gerd
                              last edited by

                              I have to give up, Sorry.

                              I find no big differences to my config.g.
                              The gcode is already very different but he should not make these problems!

                              Maybe a try, copy your tool Macro directly into the Duet Tool Macro, so that without M98 (subbrogram)

                              Board: Duet WiFi 1.03 | Firmware Version: 3.1.1 | WiFi Server Version: 1.23 | Web Interface Version: 3.1.1

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by dc42

                                @RajaaKahel, if the tool 1 nozzle is 0.85mm lower than tool 0 then I think you need Z-0.85 in the G10 P1 command, not Z0.85.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • RajaaKahelundefined
                                  RajaaKahel @dc42
                                  last edited by

                                  @dc42 Tool 1 nozzle is actually longer than Tool 0 nozzle by 0.85mm.
                                  I updated to:
                                  Firmware Version: 2.02beta1(RTOS) (2018-08-12b5)
                                  WiFi Server Version: 1.21RC4(08b3)
                                  Web Interface Version: 1.22

                                  Nothing solved.

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by dc42

                                    @rajaakahel said in Setting Z offset for T1:

                                    @dc42 Tool 1 nozzle is actually longer than Tool 0 nozzle by 0.85mm.

                                    So do you mean the Tool 1 nozzle is 0.85mm lower than tool 0, or higher?

                                    Where two tools have different nozzle heights, in the tool change files (probably the tpre file) you will need to raise Z so that when you bring in the tool with the lower nozzle after using the other one, its nozzle will be clear of the print. Use command G1 R2 Z0 at or near the end of the tpost file to put it at the right height before continuing the print.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    • RajaaKahelundefined
                                      RajaaKahel @dc42
                                      last edited by

                                      @dc42 during the last test:
                                      "I tried again with 50mm Z offset for T1"
                                      Something very strange happened!
                                      First T0 was printing, then the tool changed to T1 (nothing happened, no Z offset) but then when the tool changed back to T0 the bed moved by about 50mm down and went back to continue printing.
                                      After that and before that it didn't move down by 50mm at all.

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                                      • RajaaKahelundefined
                                        RajaaKahel @dc42
                                        last edited by

                                        @dc42 T1 is higher than T0. I tried with many gcommands to raise the bed, but they didn't work. I'll try now with G1 R2 Z50

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                                        • RajaaKahelundefined
                                          RajaaKahel @dc42
                                          last edited by RajaaKahel

                                          @dc42
                                          Ok now the bed is moving down by the value I entered (50mm) Before T1 is activated but it goes back to 0.2mm (the layer height) after T1 is activated. It should go to 50.2mm after T1 is selected and stay there to print. (So now the Z offset is taken into account only during tool change).

                                          Thank you for your time, we are getting closer 🙂

                                          ; tfree1.g
                                          ; called when tool 1 is freed
                                          G1 R2 Z-50
                                          M98 P/macros/parkT1

                                          ; tpre1.g
                                          ; called before tool 1 is selected

                                          G1 R2 Z50

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                                          • RajaaKahelundefined
                                            RajaaKahel
                                            last edited by

                                            I gave up on this. So much time for nothing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's not. even tho same commands are used and after rebooting and homing. And the most important is in config.g
                                            The z offset doesn't work. (G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0.85)

                                            I'll have to redesign the tool mounts to be adjustable mechanically instead or move back to Marlin..

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