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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt
      last edited by

      Hi,

      Well it seems clear that your heater is rated for 230 volts. It will work at a 110/120 but it would then be considered a 225 watt heater (more or less) .

      SSRs have a rating for the input signal that controls them, usually a range of voltage such as 5 to 35 volts (DC) - just made those numbers up, not suggesting that is what you must have. But you will need an SSR that can handle 24 volts (DC). A higher rating is fine.

      SSRs also have a rating for the load they can control. If you search Amazon you will see that again you likely have a range of voltage and a maximum current.

      Consider this unit:

      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DE2RNCE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

      You should be able to see from the printing on the device that the input is rated from 3 to 32 volts (DC as indicated by the straight/dashed lines) so that would be fine with a 24 volts system.

      You should also see that the output is rated at 240 volts (the ~ character means AC) and 25 amps.

      Given the markings on your heater powering it from 230 volts (AC) would draw appx 2 amps. You can calculate that by dividing the wattage rating by the applied voltage (450 / 250 ).

      So the SSR I referenced would be fine for that.

      Hope that is enough to get you started.

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • sigxcpuundefined
        sigxcpu
        last edited by

        It will actually have 100ish W at 110.

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @sigxcpu
          last edited by

          @sigxcpu said in Connecting a SSR between Duet and heated bed:

          It will actually have 100ish W at 110.

          Right you are - I should learn to never do math in a hurry.

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_a_bed_heater#Section_Mains_voltage_AC_bed_heater.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            • Woelkchenundefined
              Woelkchen
              last edited by

              Hey,

              can someone tell me, if this wiring diagram for the SSR is right?

              0_1535456819648_SSR_Heatbed.png

              The power supply and the SSR are the one which I'm using.

              I found this diagram on google: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/aJ_yCfp-3W20019wH7vZYGCzsmyo1LDV_nBlZVrClyLhURl64LqPUWeGi6pOEmMlzQ=w5000-h5000

              Please correct me if I'm wrong.

              Thank you

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              • deckingmanundefined
                deckingman @Woelkchen
                last edited by

                @woelkchen That's I have mine wired. You might want to add a thermal fuse is the only other comment I'd make.

                Ian
                https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                • nhofundefined
                  nhof
                  last edited by

                  Just want to say that the Crydom SSR which fcwit recommended should be good.

                  Please stay away from the Fotek ones, they have a poor reputation.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by

                    Genuine Fotek DC-AC SSRs are probably OK, but there are a lot of fakes around.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                    • Danalundefined
                      Danal @Woelkchen
                      last edited by

                      @woelkchen said in Connecting a SSR between Duet and heated bed:

                      Hey,

                      can someone tell me, if this wiring diagram for the SSR is right?

                      I have a 110V (USA) heater that is 600MM in diameter (24 inches) wired exactly as you show. Draws about 13 or 14 amps, using a 40 amp rated SSR with no heatsink. Hundreds of hours, no problems.

                      GROUND (EARTH) YOUR FRAME. With high quality connections. Please.

                      Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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                      • LHelgeundefined
                        LHelge
                        last edited by

                        A few safetytips in addition to the ones mentioned above:

                        • Add a fuse with an appropriate rating on 230 V input. I use a separate fuse for the PSU and the bed, but that's not necessary. In my case the bed is at almost 1 kW, and the PSU on 200W and a single fuse would allow quite a lot of extra power to the PSU if the bed isn't active
                        • As Danal said, connect your frame to protective earth, but also the buildplate if that's conductive.
                        • Add a temperature switch to your buildplate. I use one rated at 130 deg C, which will protect me in case the SSR fails in shorted mode.
                        • Use the printer from an outlet protected by a RCD.
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