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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt well it's not really clear if he's talking about M558 H or G31 Z. I'm assuming he means the trigger height of his probe affecting his first layer. But I could be wrong.

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      • RafBundefined
        RafB
        last edited by RafB

        Another mistake on my part. I can not remember this code!

        So actually it's not M558 but G31

        I am french and the translation by google of the clibration of a delta printer is not clear. I know I would have to work at school to better understand English.

        So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @RafB
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          @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

          Another mistake on my part. I can not remember this code!

          So actually it's not M556 but G31

          I am french and the translation by google of the clibration of a delta printer is not clear. I know I would have to work at school to better understand English.

          So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

          Well I may be doing it wrong but I have always adjusted the distance from nozzle to bed at Z=0 by setting the H parameter in M665 (for delta printers course).

          The only thing I have been able to determine about the Z setting in G31 is that it affects the generation of the heightmap.csv file.

          I find the documentation about G31 to be a little confusing in some areas.

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @RafB
            last edited by Phaedrux

            @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

            So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

            Do you mean the display still shows 0.3? or you think it's still printing too high?
            Can you make further adjustment with baby stepping?

            Have you measured what the trigger height should be?

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer

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            • RafBundefined
              RafB
              last edited by RafB

              Hello,

              Yes I followed all the procedures but rather this tutorial
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkJVgFnPaE

              I hope that it is not the bltouch V2 which poses problem?

              I just redo the procedure and I find 0.7mm

              Well I will try to mount 100micron per 100micron to know if G31 Z works.

              And reread
              https://betrue3d.dk/bltouch-on-duet-wifi...

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
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                The result of your heightmap looks very good. What is the problem you are actually having? Is your first layer printing ok?

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                • RafBundefined
                  RafB
                  last edited by

                  Hello,

                  Yes it's my first layer that is 0.3mm. I am looking to go down to 0.2mm but G31 Z seems to change nothing.

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @RafB
                    last edited by

                    @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                    Hello,

                    Yes it's my first layer that is 0.3mm. I am looking to go down to 0.2mm but G31 Z seems to change nothing.

                    Once again if you do G1 Z0 where does the tip of the nozzle end up in relation to the bed surface?

                    Thanks.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • RafBundefined
                      RafB
                      last edited by

                      There is 0.3 between the nozzle and the bed

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @RafB
                        last edited by

                        @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                        There is 0.3 between the nozzle and the bed

                        Just to be sure - this is after doing G1 Z0?

                        If that IS TRUE then edit config.g - find the M665 command - edit the value of the H parameter by adding 0.3 to it.

                        See if that doesn't solve your problem.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • crynoolundefined
                          crynool
                          last edited by

                          Keep in mind the config_override.g, so editing config.g might not show any difference

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @crynool
                            last edited by

                            @crynool said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                            Keep in mind the config_override.g, so editing config.g might not show any difference

                            Right - I forgot that - I don't use config_override.g and it slipped my mind.

                            Thanks for the catch.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • RafBundefined
                              RafB
                              last edited by

                              I'll have to rest. it took me simply mounted to 0.9mm to have a first layer of 0.16mm

                              Thanks again to those who took the time to read my bullshit.

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @RafB
                                last edited by

                                @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                I'll have to rest. it took me simply mounted to 0.9mm to have a first layer of 0.16mm

                                Thanks again to those who took the time to read my bullshit.

                                Explain please. I do not understand what you have posted.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • RafBundefined
                                  RafB
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                                  I changed G31 Z0.8 to G31 Z0.9 and after this change my 1st layer is fine

                                  G31 Z0.8 = 1st layer to 0.3 (approximately)
                                  G31 Z0.9 = 1st layer at 0.16

                                  I will calibrate all of them later with a dial indicator

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    I do understand basic French, perhaps it would be easier to describe without having to translate?

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                                    • RafBundefined
                                      RafB
                                      last edited by RafB

                                      oui super ca! J'ai fais beaucoup d'erreur car quand je faisais des modifications, je ne notais pas et il pouvais ce passer une journée avant de reprendre. Cette impression me semble propre. En PETG a 80mm/s avec un Bondtech ca marche bien pour l'instant. Je vais avoir tout une série de question par la suite.

                                      Merci beaucoup pour ton acharnement à m'aider et essayé de comprendre mes erreurs de frappe.😉

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator @RafB
                                        last edited by

                                        @rafb alright, I mostly understood that. My French has grown poor from disuse. Try to use simple phrase, so I can follow along. I won't be able to reply in French very well, so hopefully you can understand me in return.

                                        Bon chance. Alonzi.

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @RafB
                                          last edited by fcwilt

                                          @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                          I changed G31 Z0.8 to G31 Z0.9 and after this change my 1st layer is fine

                                          G31 Z0.8 = 1st layer to 0.3 (approximately)
                                          G31 Z0.9 = 1st layer at 0.16

                                          I will calibrate all of them later with a dial indicator

                                          Well that is one way to do it as long as you do a probe every time the printer is turned on or the firmware reset or the printer is homed (I think need to test that).

                                          I prefer to set the H parameter in M665 accurately so probing is not needed.

                                          My probe is on a dedicated effector plate and it would be a bit of a pain to have to install it just to keep resetting the Z reference as needed.

                                          To each their own. Glad to hear you got it working to your satisfaction.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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