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    fcwilt @Phaedrux
    last edited by 10 Sept 2018, 23:32

    @phaedrux said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

    Looking at your config I'm guessing you mean the Z trigger height value from G31 P25 X0 Y20 Z0.7 ?

    Well that would explain what he meant to do.

    Good catch.

    Frederick

    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      Redemptioner
      last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 04:01

      Your RMS is pretty good although your probe area looks rather strange

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        Phaedrux Moderator @Redemptioner
        last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 04:41

        @redemptioner Just a guess, but I think it's a circular bed shape on a delta and one edge is cut off because it's inaccessible to the probe.

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          RafB
          last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 11:20

          thank you all for trying to understand my mistakes in writing and using a delta with duet.

          Actually I speak of G31 H0.7 which does not crush my 1st layer.

          G31 H0.8 = 1layer 0.3mm
          G31 H0.7 = 1layer 0.3mm

          Yes it's delta https://tevo3dprinterstore.com/products/2017-newest-tevo-delta-printing-area-d340xh500mm-openbuilds-extrusion-smoothieware-mks-tft28-bltouch-high-speed-3d-printer-kit?variant=49755163079

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            fcwilt @RafB
            last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 11:47

            @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

            thank you all for trying to understand my mistakes in writing and using a delta with duet.

            Actually I speak of G31 H0.7 which does not crush my 1st layer.

            G31 H0.8 = 1layer 0.3mm
            G31 H0.7 = 1layer 0.3mm

            If you move down to Z=0 where is the tip of the nozzle in relation to the bed?

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              dc42 administrators
              last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 12:26

              The G31 command in RRF has no H parameter.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                Phaedrux Moderator @dc42
                last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 17:39

                @dc42 said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                The G31 command in RRF has no H parameter.

                He's saying H, but in his config it is Z.

                @RafB If 0.7 versus 0.8 is not enough of a difference, perhaps try using baby stepping to make adjustments until your first layer is good, and then take the baby stepping and add or subtract it to your G31 Z height value to make the change permanent.

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                  fcwilt @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 17:46

                  @phaedrux said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                  @RafB If 0.7 versus 0.8 is not enough of a difference, perhaps try using baby stepping to make adjustments until your first layer is good, and then take the baby stepping and add or subtract it to your G31 Z height value to make the change permanent.

                  What does that value have to do with setting Z=0 to be just touching the bed?

                  I always obtain that condition by adjusting the H parameter in M665 for my deltas.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
                    last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 17:48

                    @fcwilt well it's not really clear if he's talking about M558 H or G31 Z. I'm assuming he means the trigger height of his probe affecting his first layer. But I could be wrong.

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                      RafB
                      last edited by RafB 9 Nov 2018, 18:28 11 Sept 2018, 18:15

                      Another mistake on my part. I can not remember this code!

                      So actually it's not M558 but G31

                      I am french and the translation by google of the clibration of a delta printer is not clear. I know I would have to work at school to better understand English.

                      So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

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                        fcwilt @RafB
                        last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 18:26

                        @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                        Another mistake on my part. I can not remember this code!

                        So actually it's not M556 but G31

                        I am french and the translation by google of the clibration of a delta printer is not clear. I know I would have to work at school to better understand English.

                        So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

                        Well I may be doing it wrong but I have always adjusted the distance from nozzle to bed at Z=0 by setting the H parameter in M665 (for delta printers course).

                        The only thing I have been able to determine about the Z setting in G31 is that it affects the generation of the heightmap.csv file.

                        I find the documentation about G31 to be a little confusing in some areas.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          Phaedrux Moderator @RafB
                          last edited by Phaedrux 9 Nov 2018, 20:46 11 Sept 2018, 20:46

                          @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                          So when I change G31 Z + or- my print still has the 1st layer at 0.3mm

                          Do you mean the display still shows 0.3? or you think it's still printing too high?
                          Can you make further adjustment with baby stepping?

                          Have you measured what the trigger height should be?

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Calibrating_a_delta_printer

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                            RafB
                            last edited by RafB 9 Nov 2018, 22:06 11 Sept 2018, 22:02

                            Hello,

                            Yes I followed all the procedures but rather this tutorial
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgkJVgFnPaE

                            I hope that it is not the bltouch V2 which poses problem?

                            I just redo the procedure and I find 0.7mm

                            Well I will try to mount 100micron per 100micron to know if G31 Z works.

                            And reread
                            https://betrue3d.dk/bltouch-on-duet-wifi...

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                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by 11 Sept 2018, 22:43

                              The result of your heightmap looks very good. What is the problem you are actually having? Is your first layer printing ok?

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                                RafB
                                last edited by 12 Sept 2018, 20:52

                                Hello,

                                Yes it's my first layer that is 0.3mm. I am looking to go down to 0.2mm but G31 Z seems to change nothing.

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                                  fcwilt @RafB
                                  last edited by 12 Sept 2018, 20:54

                                  @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                  Hello,

                                  Yes it's my first layer that is 0.3mm. I am looking to go down to 0.2mm but G31 Z seems to change nothing.

                                  Once again if you do G1 Z0 where does the tip of the nozzle end up in relation to the bed surface?

                                  Thanks.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    RafB
                                    last edited by 12 Sept 2018, 20:58

                                    There is 0.3 between the nozzle and the bed

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                                      fcwilt @RafB
                                      last edited by 12 Sept 2018, 21:08

                                      @rafb said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                      There is 0.3 between the nozzle and the bed

                                      Just to be sure - this is after doing G1 Z0?

                                      If that IS TRUE then edit config.g - find the M665 command - edit the value of the H parameter by adding 0.3 to it.

                                      See if that doesn't solve your problem.

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        crynool
                                        last edited by 12 Sept 2018, 21:13

                                        Keep in mind the config_override.g, so editing config.g might not show any difference

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                                          fcwilt @crynool
                                          last edited by 12 Sept 2018, 21:35

                                          @crynool said in M558 H Little monster Delta:

                                          Keep in mind the config_override.g, so editing config.g might not show any difference

                                          Right - I forgot that - I don't use config_override.g and it slipped my mind.

                                          Thanks for the catch.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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