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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
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      I recommend that you also connect mains ground to the V- output of your PSU. Just watch out if you use a USB connection to the Duet, see the wiki page on USB ground loops.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      • leifundefined
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        Thanks for quick reply @dc42 . I was aware of ground loops and have been connecting to the Duet with laptop powered by battery alone which was suggested a safe option. I also think the new doku is very very good, so thank you very much for this 🙂

        I updated the drawing as suggested and will wire up the rest of printer again shortly. I have also updated my steppers to 0.9 17HM19-2004S as suggested earlier in your blogpost. Practically my kossel mini came together by reading your blog, so thank you so much again 🙂

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        • veng1undefined
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          Why not use a large value resistor, say 1M, between V- and mains ground?

          That will still bleed off a static charge but not, hopefully, impact ground loops as much.

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          • c310undefined
            c310
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            why not to ground stepper motors body directly to main earth?
            ...without connecting main ground to V-

            i grounded mine and it seems to work without issues....

            🙂

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt
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              Hi,

              Just to be safe I would not connect the PS connections V- and G without checking with the manufacture first.

              In many, if not most, cases I think it will be fine but there are PS designs (at least on paper) where this connection would not be a good idea.

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • Phaedruxundefined
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                @veng1 said in Grounding kossel mini frame:

                Why not use a large value resistor, say 1M, between V- and mains ground?

                That will still bleed off a static charge but not, hopefully, impact ground loops as much.

                I've also seen it recommended to use a diode between DC V- and Mains ground but I can't seem to find it anymore. I'm not an electrical wizard so I don't know if that's good advice or not. But the reasoning given was similar to what you mention.

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                • c310undefined
                  c310
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                  @phaedrux said in Grounding kossel mini frame:

                  I've also seen it recommended to use a diode between DC V- and Mains ground

                  @dc42 can you help us on this issue?

                  article WiKi_USB_ground_loops says that
                  "Disconnect the power supply negative output from mains ground. For safety reasons, this is not recommended."

                  So, questions:

                  1. Connect or not to V- to main ground? what is the risk of not connecting it?
                  2. put diode or resistor? what kind of parameters ?
                  3. if it is diode - which side / polarity ?

                  thanks!

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                  • dc42undefined
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                    @c310 said in Grounding kossel mini frame:

                    Connect or not to V- to main ground? what is the risk of not connecting it?

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jYZDLOV4Jc

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                    • c310undefined
                      c310
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                      @dc42 thanks for video.

                      it is clear with grounding PSU, but in the video ground is NOT connected to V-

                      should i connect it or not? if yes - diode (which polarity than) or resistor... ???

                      thanks!

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                      • dc42undefined
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                        I connect it directly on my delta.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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