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    • Bujundefined
      Buj
      last edited by Buj

      System is 24 volts powered
      Core XY
      This is my Driver mapping. I am controlling 4 nema 23 motors
      M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4:5:6 ; Assign drivers to Z axis
      X and Y are fine

      • Z axis I have 3 turning and one that refuses to turn.
        I swapped motor between drive 4 and drive 2 to confirm motor is good (and it is). The drive 2 not turning.

      • The 3 that are turning i can easily stop the with my hand.
        I tried increasing the current with M906 X800.00 Y800.00 Z1200 E1200:1200:1200 I30.
        no luck

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        Please post your config.g file.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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        • Bujundefined
          Buj
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          ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Tue Nov 13 2018 10:58:17 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

          ; General preferences
          G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

          M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode

          ; Network
          M550 PFraMal ; Set machine name
          M552 S1 ; Enable network
          M587
          M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
          M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
          M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

          ; Drives
          M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4:5:6 ; Assing drivers to Z axis
          M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
          M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
          M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
          M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
          M350 X16 Y16 E16 Z16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z4000.00 E420.00 ; Set steps per mm
          M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z200.00 E250.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X800.00 Y800.00 Z1200 E1200:1200:1200 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

          ; Axis Limits
          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
          M208 X1200 Y1200 Z1000 S0 ; Set axis maxima

          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S1 ; Set active low endstops

          ; Z-Probe
          M558 P5 H5 F120 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
          G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          M557 X15:6 Y15:195 S20 ; Define mesh grid

          ; Heaters
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M305 P0 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
          M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
          M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

          ; Fans
          M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
          M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

          ; Tools
          M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

          ; Custom settings are not configured

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          • SupraGuyundefined
            SupraGuy @Buj
            last edited by

            @buj said in Z Motor weak / one missing:

            System is 24 volts powered
            Core XY
            This is my Driver mapping. I am controlling 4 nema 23 motors
            M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4:5:6 ; Assign drivers to Z axis
            X and Y are fine

            Try

            M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4:5:6 E3 ; Assign drivers to Z axis, unassign 4 from E axis.
            

            If the motor on drive 2 isn't turning, check that the jumpers are on the second output of drive 2. If they aren't, then that motor will be open circuit, since the second motor boss is in series with the first one.

            Lead screw driven printer, powered by Duet 2 Wifi
            MPCNC powered by Duet 2 Wifi
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            • Bujundefined
              Buj
              last edited by

              @supraguy said in Z Motor weak / one missing:

              then that motor will be open circuit, since the second motor boss is in series with the first one.

              Jumpers are present,and installed as per factory. could they be defective? i doubt but at this point... i'll check

              thanks

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              • Bujundefined
                Buj
                last edited by

                [Update] From what i hear from theZ axis motor is that the signal frequency is too high and motors start skipping assoonas they recieve a signal . going downward is easier...

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                • Bujundefined
                  Buj
                  last edited by

                  Reduced the Z acceleration from 200 to 50. Now going up and down as expected.
                  Still no output from drive 2 Z motor...

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                  • Stephen6309undefined
                    Stephen6309 @Buj
                    last edited by

                    @Buj
                    Z axis acceleration is probably too high, if there is no mechanical problem.

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                    • Bujundefined
                      Buj
                      last edited by

                      Mouvement out of 3 motors remapped as per config with low acceleration, still missing the 4th motor connected to Z output of DUET wifi

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by dc42

                        Did you correct the M584 command as @SupraGuy suggested? That's very important, see the bold text at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/GCode#Section_M584_Set_drive_mapping.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • Bujundefined
                          Buj
                          last edited by

                          the assign beeing M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4:5:6 E3
                          i understand that etruder is assign to 3? isnt it?
                          how do i unassign a drive?

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators @Buj
                            last edited by

                            @buj said in Z Motor weak / one missing:

                            the assign beeing M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4:5:6 E3
                            i understand that etruder is assign to 3? isnt it?
                            how do i unassign a drive?

                            Yes, that M584 command is correct. Do you still have the problem?

                            It may help diagnose the problem if you upgrade to firmware 2.02RC3 because it has better stepper driver diagnostics.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            • Bujundefined
                              Buj
                              last edited by

                              The printer is on the move to the Maker Fair. will persue at a later date.

                              Thanks#

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                              • SupraGuyundefined
                                SupraGuy
                                last edited by

                                The reason for explicitly assigning E to drive 3 is that by default it would be ... E3:4 -- with drive 4 also assigned as an E axis. (As per the bolded text in the article dc42 linked.)

                                Lead screw driven printer, powered by Duet 2 Wifi
                                MPCNC powered by Duet 2 Wifi
                                CoreXY printer driven by Duet 3 6HC
                                LowRider CNC powered by Duet 2 Wifi

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