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    • Martin1454undefined
      Martin1454
      last edited by

      So yesterday, I updated to the latest firmware (RC4)

      Now when I home, I get an error, but not any info on why I get that error.

      Anyone got an clue?
      0_1543247060208_Udklip.PNG

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
        last edited by

        You need to have home Z before you run G32. The simplest way is to do a G30 probe at bed centre.

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        • Martin1454undefined
          Martin1454 @dc42
          last edited by Martin1454

          @dc42 said in Reverse math for 3-point auto leveling?:

          You need to have home Z before you run G32. The simplest way is to do a G30 probe at bed centre.

          @dc42
          I added G30 to the homeall.g but still get the error:

          ; Z-axis
          M561                     ; Clear any bed transform
          G30 X160 Y130 Z-9999;
          G32                      ; Start 3-point probe sequence - Bed.g
          ;M375 P"bareplate.csv"    ; Load heightmap
          G1 Z20.0 F6000           ; Move Z to 20
          G1 X5 Y5    		 ; Move Head to front left
          
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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by dc42

            Instead of that G30 command you added, use:

            G1 X160 Y130 F6000
            G30

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            • Martin1454undefined
              Martin1454 @dc42
              last edited by

              @dc42
              Hmm... Changed that + a bit in my bed.g script and got a new kind of error:
              0_1543258210130_well.PNG
              It is no longer red but still there.

              I changed my homeall to

              ; called to home all axes
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Tue Jul 31 2018 15:05:50 GMT+0200 (Centraleuropæisk sommertid)
              
              M400; make sure everything has stopped before we make changes
              M574 X1 Y1 S3		;		
              M913 X30 Y30 		; XY motors to 30% current	
              M915 X Y H400 S3 R0 F0	; set X and Y to sensitivity , do nothing when stall, unfiltered
              
              
              ; X axis home		
              G91			; use relative positioning
              G1 Z5 F6000 S2    ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 S1 X-405 F6000 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
              G1 X5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
              G1 S1 X-405 F4000  ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
              
              ; Y axis home
              G1 S1 Y-305 F6000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
              G1 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
              G1 S1 Y-305 F4000  ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
              G90               ; absolute positioning
              M913 X100 Y100; motor currents back to 100%
              
              ; Z-axis
              
              M561                     ; Clear any bed transform
              G1 X160 Y130 F6000
              G30
              G32                      ; Start 3-point probe sequence - Bed.g
              ;M375 P"bareplate.csv"    ; Load heightmap
              ;G1 Z20.0 F6000           ; Move Z to 20
              ;G1 X5 Y5    		 ; Move Head to front left
              

              and removed 2 lines from bed.g

              ; bed.g
              ; called to perform automatic bed compensation via G32
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Tue Jul 31 2018 15:05:50 GMT+0200 (Centraleuropæisk sommertid)
              M561 ; clear any bed transform
              G28 Z;
              M561; Clear bed height map 
              ; Probe the bed at 3 points
              G30 P0 X0 Y160 Z-9999 ; Front Right
              G30 P1 X320 Y47 Z-9999 ; Front Left
              G30 P2 X320 Y280 Z-9999 S3 ; Center Rear
              
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              • Martin1454undefined
                Martin1454 @Martin1454
                last edited by Martin1454

                @martin1454
                Found it - it was the G28 in my bed.g file
                EDIT:
                way better probeing
                0_1543258863643_Udklip.PNG

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                • Martin1454undefined
                  Martin1454
                  last edited by

                  So I have been playing a bit around, updated firmware and so on.

                  Right now my bed leveling is getting better each time I run G28 - but never perfect

                  0_1544977257605_homing.PNG
                  0_1544977276060_height.png
                  I have marked out approximately the placement where it probes when probing the lead screws (the screw is ofcourse a few mm/cm outside the build plate)

                  My sheet should be pretty straight since it is a 6mm thick cast aluminium plate (with a sheet on top) - But what doesn't make sense to me is, even after the 3 point calibration, it does not make a plan that is flat? Should the 3 points not be 0-0-0 after next G28 probing?

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by

                    You've done 3 successive leadscrew adjustments, and on the 3rd one it still made significant corrections. This suggests that the model used by the firmware (which assumed gimballed joints) doesn't match your mechanics very well.

                    I think you need to run leadscrew adjustment more times, until the adjustments made are all 0.02mm or less. You may find that increasing the M671 F parameter to around 1.2 or 1.4 helps to speed up convergence.

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                    • Martin1454undefined
                      Martin1454 @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42 Aha, I will try that! - newer though about changing the pitch

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                      • Martin1454undefined
                        Martin1454
                        last edited by

                        @dc42
                        So I made a few changes - I edited the positions a bit in M671, and changed the "fudge factor" to 1.25

                        It have become a bit better, but still not working optimal:
                        0_1545153178231_height.png
                        0_1545153187547_new.PNG

                        It is quite consisten with middle left (1) being too low, right front (2) being little too high and (3) right rear being too high.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          Bear in mind that unless your probe is accurate and the bed and the head XY movement plane are both completely flat (which isn't the case, judging from your height map), unless your leadscrew adjustment probe points coincide with points on the mesh then you can't expect the height map to have zero error at the leadscrew probe points.

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                          • Martin1454undefined
                            Martin1454 @dc42
                            last edited by

                            @dc42 said in Reverse math for 3-point auto leveling?:

                            Bear in mind that unless your probe is accurate and the bed and the head XY movement plane are both completely flat (which isn't the case, judging from your height map), unless your leadscrew adjustment probe points coincide with points on the mesh then you can't expect the height map to have zero error at the leadscrew probe points.

                            Hmm... might look into my gantry...

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                            • Martin1454undefined
                              Martin1454
                              last edited by Martin1454

                              after adding 5 point leveling instead of 3, it works quiet bit better0_1547492547383_Unavngivet.png

                              But Im thinking about chainging it from 3 independent motors to 4

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                              • Martin1454undefined
                                Martin1454
                                last edited by Martin1454

                                Finally to the point where im satisfied.

                                Biggeste change was changing to BL touch - After I got my hands on an thermal/IR camera, I could see that the bed was like a mirror for the camera, so that's why the IR probe didn't work good enough

                                0_1547836211655_49342220_10217893577268121_4807436385667514368_o.jpg

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