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Can we get some guidance on Mesh bed and config/startup scripts

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    schneik80
    last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 18:31

    Im on 2.01 and looking at testing 2.02.

    I see changes is mesh bed storage, and now separate grids. Can we get an update to documentation or a short explanation on recommended configurations? I want to store a base mesh and reuse it for every print. I only probe one point to set z at the start of each print. What S3D start up script, bed.g and config.g is now recommended in 2.02?

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 18:36

      Have you seen this?

      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation

      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/GCode#Section_G29_Detailed_Z_Probe

      If you're only using 1 point for a mesh grid you might as well just home z with a single G30 and not bother with G29 and mesh compensation.

      I'm not really clear on what exactly you're looking for. Can you give some more context?

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        schneik80
        last edited by schneik80 22 Dec 2018, 18:45

        Thanks, let me add more context. I have a bed that rarely every changes in is topography ( variance in z at different x and y positions). But there is about .4 mm difference across the bed so i need mesh compensation to account for this variance.

        I wish to turn the printer on, probe bed center to home/set Z 0.00, then load the stored mesh and re-use it every print to compensate for bed variance.

        Reading through the release notes and upgrade notes there are dispersed mentions of changes to g29, g30 and m557. There is mention of changes to how mesh grids are stored and loaded to avoid previous issues with them overwriting each other.

        Link to the documentation do not yet completely reflect the changes in 2.02RC builds ( don't expect them to until the official release). That said tacking down snippets across forum posts and multiple RC build upgrade notes has left me confused on how I should change my configuration to test. I can piece together some of the changes but i'm always interested in a good example of this is a recommended setup or some sample code. I dont want to assume what i have is correct.

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          schneik80
          last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 18:51

          here is my bed.g:

          ; called to perform automatic bed compensation via G32
          ;
          M561                                                ; Clear any bed transform
          G29 S2
          M557 X25:270 Y20:185 S27:27.5                       ; fill 314 x 214
          ;
          ;Mesh probe
          ;
          G29 S0                                              ;Probe Mesh table
          G29 S1                                              ;Store bed mesh table
          M376 H2.5                                           ;Enable mesh fall off over 2.5 mm
          M500			                            ;Store all values
          
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            schneik80
            last edited by schneik80 22 Dec 2018, 18:53

            here is my probe section in config.g:

            ; Z-Probe
            M574 Z0 S2 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
            M558 P1 X0 Y0 Z1 F200 T6000 H2.0 R0 ; Set Z probe type to modulated and the dive height + speeds
            G31 P500 X-24 Y0 Z2.4 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
            M557 X25:270 Y20:185 S27:27.5 ; Define mesh grid

            EDIT: I call up the mesh with G29 S1 as part of my slicer startup script.

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 18:54

              Alright, well here's what I do.

              I have a bed that is very solid (coreXY) and once manually leveled, stays level, but the surface of the bed has some slight +- variation across the surface, much like you describe. So I use mesh compensation to account for that, but it doesn't change often, so I use a saved heightmap. Does that sound like what you're after?

              I use G29 to do a detailed mesh grid probing with as many points as I can. It takes about 30-45 minutes, so I don't want to do it often, but since it doesn't change often, it works fine to save and load it. By default G29 will just save to heightmap.csv. This is fine. Then I have M375 (same as G29 S1) in config.g to load the default heightmap at startup. Before a print I use G28 to home all axis, which does a single G30 in bed center to set Z0. Nothing else required.

              I don't use bed.g since I'm not doing anything complicated. I don't use the firmware provided manual bed leveling, though I could use it for that if I wanted.

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                schneik80
                last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 19:02

                Have you moved to 2.02RC6?

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @schneik80
                  last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 19:14

                  @schneik80 Yes, I'm actually testing 2.02 RC7 right now.

                  I don't think any of the changes recent or upcoming will have any impact on how I'm using G29.

                  Can you link to specific examples of the changes you're concerned about?

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                    schneik80
                    last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 20:17

                    2.02 RC3 - Please test your Z probe after installing this release, before you rely on it for Z homing or bed probing!

                    Based on this I'm review ing previous changes trying to identify what change would warrant an all bold warning. All i can find are:

                    RC3
                    M557 now supports a P parameter to set the number of X and Y points, as an alternative to using the S parameter to set the spacing

                    Above is not covered in the documentation

                    M558: zero or negative Z probe tolerance (S parameter) with A parameter > 1 now means always average all readings

                    Sounds interesting to reduce errant readings. I am not currently using an S or A parameter.

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 22 Dec 2018, 20:32

                      I'm not exactly sure what that warning was referring to either.

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                        Dougal1957
                        last edited by 23 Dec 2018, 09:21

                        The G-Code wiki is uptodate as far as I can tell see M557
                        and M558 for all the parameter specs and what they do

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                          dc42 administrators @Phaedrux
                          last edited by 23 Dec 2018, 11:26

                          @phaedrux said in Can we get some guidance on Mesh bed and config/startup scripts:

                          I'm not exactly sure what that warning was referring to either.

                          I had made some changes to Z probing, so the warning was in case I had got them wrong - especially as I don't test every type of Z probe. I didn't intend the behaviour to change.

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