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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957 @whosrdaddy
      last edited by

      @whosrdaddy Not only that but it is in the E1 position as well

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      • peirofundefined
        peirof
        last edited by

        ok,

        thanks i check this.... but, none of 4 motors works (3 axis 1 extruder)

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        • Dougal1957undefined
          Dougal1957
          last edited by

          but they won't move unless the printer is homed which can't happen unless the motors are connected to the correct places

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          • peirofundefined
            peirof @Dougal1957
            last edited by

            @dougal1957 Doing test... i have chaged one axis motor, from his shocket to extruder shocket, for check if was a motor issue...

            but no, no axis movement, no extruder movement

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            • peirofundefined
              peirof @Dougal1957
              last edited by

              @dougal1957 i haved reconected the motors to this shockets in Duet, and home manual (move printer until endstops are engaged).... and NO moves

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by dc42

                To check motors individually before you have homed them, them send G91 followed by e.g. G1 S2 X10 which should move the X motor 10mm in the positive direction. Replace X10 by X-10, Y10, Y-10 etc. to test the other direction and other motors.

                Common reasons why motors won't move:

                1. Motor current is set to zero. Send M906 without parameters and check that the reported motor currents are correct. Also send M913 and check all the currents are at 100%.

                2. VIN is not present or the voltage is too low. Send M122 and check the reported VIN voltage. It needs to be at least 10V. If it is, try moving a motor (see earlier), and if the motor doesn't move run M122 again and check for under-voltage events in the report.

                3. If it's a revision 1.04 Duet, the 7.5A fuse may have blown, for example because due to a short-circuited heater.

                A common reason for VIN being too low is that the screws in the VIN terminal block are no longer tight., so VIN at the Duet drops when you try to move a motor or turn on a heater.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • peirofundefined
                  peirof
                  last edited by peirof

                  @dc42

                  I have do the test.... with next results

                  TEST A

                   *PROCEDURE:*
                  
                    "To check motors individually before you have homed them, them send G91 followed by e.g. G1 S2 X10 which should move the X motor 10mm in the positive direction. Replace X10 by X-10, Y10, Y-10 etc. to test the other direction and other motors"
                  

                  RESULTS:

                   Dont move
                  

                  TEST B

                  PROCEDURE:

                  Motor current is set to zero. Send M906 without parameters and check that the reported motor currents are correct. Also send M913 and check all the currents are at 100%.
                  

                  RESULTS:

                  M906

                  Motor current (mA) - X:1200, Y:1200, Z:1200, E:800:800, idle factor 40%
                  

                  M913

                  Motor current % of normal - X:100, Y:100, Z:100, E:100:100
                  

                  TEST C

                  PROCEDURE:

                  VIN is not present or the voltage is too low. Send M122 and check the reported VIN voltage. It needs to be at least 10V. If it is, try moving a motor (see earlier), and if the motor doesn't move run M122 again and check for under-voltage events in the report
                  

                  RESULT

                  Supply voltage: min 24.5, current 24.7, max 24.9, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                  

                  TEST D

                  PROCEDURE:

                  If it's a revision 1.04 Duet, the 7.5A fuse may have blown, for example because due to a short-circuited heater.
                  

                  RESIULT

                  I have changed fuse, 7,5A. And the same.
                  

                  All works, minus stepper motors

                  I have checked screws in Vin terminal.... are ok

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                  • peirofundefined
                    peirof
                    last edited by

                    For tests i have do....

                    All, minus motors, works....

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                    • peirofundefined
                      peirof
                      last edited by peirof

                      If i conect a multimeter, to axis sockect, PIN X and Y (i dont know what pins)...... and command a move order to printer, that involves that axis, i have to see Voltage in multimeter? What range?1.0 A, aprox?

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
                        last edited by

                        You can connect a multimeter set to a voltage range to pairs of stepper driver output pins, but be very careful not to short them together!

                        When you command a motor to move for the first time after powering up the Duet, does the axis become stiff and harder to turn by hand?

                        Please try commanding some motors to move, then send M122 once and post the report here.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • peirofundefined
                          peirof @dc42
                          last edited by

                          @dc42

                          i send by console G91 and after G1 S2 X10.... and axis stiff, the same with Y and Z

                          after send a M122, the results

                          M122
                          === Diagnostics ===
                          RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.02(RTOS) running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                          Board ID: 08DGM-956GU-DJMSN-6J1DJ-3S86S-K9RBH
                          Used output buffers: 1 of 20 (15 max)
                          === RTOS ===
                          Static ram: 25524
                          Dynamic ram: 98632 of which 0 recycled
                          Exception stack ram used: 328
                          Never used ram: 6588
                          Tasks: NETWORK(ready,680) HEAT(blocked,1232) MAIN(running,3860) IDLE(ready,200)
                          Owned mutexes:
                          === Platform ===
                          Last reset 00:07:29 ago, cause: power up
                          Last software reset at 2019-01-06 18:27, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 6452 bytes (slot 2)
                          Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
                          Error status: 0
                          Free file entries: 10
                          SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                          SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
                          MCU temperature: min 36.4, current 38.5, max 38.8
                          Supply voltage: min 24.5, current 24.7, max 24.9, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                          Driver 0: ok, SG min/max not available
                          Driver 1: ok, SG min/max not available
                          Driver 2: ok, SG min/max not available
                          Driver 3: ok, SG min/max not available
                          Driver 4: ok, SG min/max not available
                          Date/time: 2019-01-07 16:26:37
                          Cache data hit count 1683481520
                          Slowest loop: 2.26ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                          I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0
                          === Move ===
                          Hiccups: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, FreeDm: 240, MinFreeDm: 239, MaxWait: 297717ms, Underruns: 0, 0
                          Scheduled moves: 3, completed moves: 3
                          Bed compensation in use: none
                          Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
                          === Heat ===
                          Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
                          === GCodes ===
                          Segments left: 0
                          Stack records: 2 allocated, 0 in use
                          Movement lock held by null
                          http is idle in state(s) 0
                          telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                          file is idle in state(s) 0
                          serial is idle in state(s) 0
                          aux is idle in state(s) 0
                          daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                          queue is idle in state(s) 0
                          autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                          Code queue is empty.
                          === Network ===
                          Slowest loop: 168.39ms; fastest: 0.08ms
                          Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
                          HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                          • WiFi -
                            Network state is running
                            WiFi module is connected to access point
                            Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                            WiFi firmware version 1.21
                            WiFi MAC address 5c:cf:7f:76:73:23
                            WiFi Vcc 3.29, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                            WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 15528
                            WiFi IP address 192.168.1.200
                            WiFi signal strength -44dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                            Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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                          • peirofundefined
                            peirof
                            last edited by

                            What can i do?

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Please post your config.g file.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • sigxcpuundefined
                                sigxcpu @peirof
                                last edited by

                                @peirof M119 ?

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                                • peirofundefined
                                  peirof
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi,

                                  Config.g

                                  ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
                                  ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Fri Aug 04 2017 00:02:04 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)

                                  ; General preferences
                                  M111 S0 ; Debugging off
                                  G21 ; Work in millimetres
                                  G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                  M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
                                  M665 R157 L397.1073 B175 H500.3 ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
                                  M666 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them
                                  M208 Z0 S1 ; Set minimum Z

                                  ; Endstops & Monitoring aa
                                  M574 X2 Y2 Z2 S1 ; Define active high microswitches
                                  M557 R110 S25 ; Define mesh grid
                                  M911 S12.0:19.5:22.0 ; Auto-pause at 19.5V, then either stop at 12V or auto-resume at 22V

                                  ;DESACTIVAR EL PIN DEL HEATER7, EN EL SOCKET DE EXPANSION

                                  ;Zprobe Precision Piezo

                                  ; M558 P0
                                  M558 P8 I1 R0.4 F500 X0 Y0 Z0; M558 P8 I1 R1 F300 X0 Y0 Z0 H2 / M558 P5 I1 R0.4 F300 H5 X0 Y0 Z0 T2400
                                  G31 X0 Y0 Z-0.1 P400 ;(X, Y, Z offsets, debounce interval)

                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                  M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                  M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                                  M569 P3 S0 ; Drive 3 goes reverse
                                  M350 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                  M350 X32 Y32 Z32 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                  M92 X160 Y160 Z160 E415 ; Set steps per mm
                                  M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1200 ; Jerk Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 X18000 Y18000 Z1800 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1000 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E800 I40 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                  ; Pressure in advance

                                  M572 D0 S0.08 ; Setup for pressure in advance

                                  ; Heaters
                                  M143 S285 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 285C
                                  M301 H0 S1.00 P10 I0.1 D200 T0.4 W180 B30 ; Use PID on bed heater (may require further tuning

                                  M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                  M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1

                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 S"Prometheus" D0 H1 F1 ;M563 P0 D0 H1 ; tool(P)0 Nombre(S) Motor de extrusion(D)0 Calentador(H)1 y Ventilador(F)1
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                  ; Network
                                  M550 PTLM Duet 2 ; Set machine name
                                  M587 S"TERRAZAExtender2.4GHz" P"a1b2c3d4" I192.168.1.200
                                  M552 S1 ; Enable network
                                  M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                                  M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                                  M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                                  ; Fans
                                  M106 P0 H-1 ; GCODE FAN
                                  M106 P1 H-1 ; GCODE FAN
                                  M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T205 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on a 70C

                                  ; Custom settings are not configured

                                  ; Miscellaneous
                                  M501 ; Load saved parameters from non-volatile memory

                                  M119

                                  Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: not stopped, Z probe: not stopped

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                                  • peirofundefined
                                    peirof
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi,

                                    An idea it's make a Soft reset... How would the procedure?

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @peirof
                                      last edited by

                                      @peirof said in Issues with motors..... Don't move:

                                      Hi,

                                      An idea it's make a Soft reset... How would the procedure?

                                      Sending M999 causes a software reset.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • peirofundefined
                                        peirof @dc42
                                        last edited by

                                        @dc42 Ok... Later try... Exist, in Duet, a Hard reset?

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                                        • Dougal1957undefined
                                          Dougal1957
                                          last edited by

                                          @peirof said in Issues with motors..... Don't move:

                                          M558 P8 I1 R0.4 F500 X0 Y0 Z0; M558 P8 I1 R1 F300 X0 Y0 Z0 H2 / M558 P5 I1 R0.4 F300 H5 X0 Y0 Z0 T2400

                                          I could be way of the mark here but in this line
                                          M558 P8 I1 R0.4 F500 X0 Y0 Z0; M558 P8 I1 R1 F300 X0 Y0 Z0 H2 / M558 P5 I1 R0.4 F300 H5 X0 Y0 Z0 T2400

                                          is the semicolon directly after the Z0 ok or does it need a space in there?

                                          Doug

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                                          • peirofundefined
                                            peirof @Dougal1957
                                            last edited by

                                            @dougal1957

                                            i am not sure, but think this is not the problem, the printer has been working with these config.g, months....

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