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    • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
      pr0xyfl00d3r
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      Hi, yes it does have 2, and connected to z1 and z2 but they are moving in sync with my eye and with a spirit level on the bed.

      they are 1.8 step

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      • dc42undefined
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        The bed may be level according to your spirit level; but is the X gantry parallel with it?

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        • hurzhurzundefined
          hurzhurz
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          @pr0xyfl00d3r As a tip, there is a nice assistant for manual leveling that you can use to get it at least somewhat right for a start:
          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_the_manual_bed_levelling_assistant

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          • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
            pr0xyfl00d3r @dc42
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            @dc42 i have now checked the x axes and this also level to the bed in multiple places around the bed

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            • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
              pr0xyfl00d3r
              last edited by

              I'm using the stock NPN sensor that comes with the Tronxy X5SA
              0_1546985404045_Screenshot 2019-01-08 at 22.09.42.png

              I have connected this to the Z Probe IN for Signal and + and - to an Always on Fan with 12v turned on,

              Stepper Motors
              Step Angle:1.8deg

              I have just done another Auto Bed Comp and this what i got.

              1_1546985818074_Screenshot 2019-01-08 at 22.04.03.png 0_1546985818073_Screenshot 2019-01-08 at 22.03.44.png

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                It's totally possible that the bed is actually that warped. The color map exaggerates the differences to make them easy to see, but the actual deviations aren't that extreme. -1.5 to +0.4mm wouldn't surprise me for a Tronxy bed.

                What happens if you print a test file like this? Does the bed compensation work to keep the first layer in contact?

                0_1546986596745_bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

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                • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                  pr0xyfl00d3r
                  last edited by

                  The bed is not warped works perfect with factory board setup, i am running the file you posted and video what is does, when i tried a file earlier it rams in the heatbed

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                    @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                    M558

                    Can you try adding A10 R0.5 S0.003 B0 to your M558 command?

                    This will set it to try up to 10 probes until it gets 2 consecutive readings within 0.003, and it will wait 0.5 seconds between probe travels to let the machine settle, and will disable any heaters during the probe move to eliminate any electrical interference.

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                    • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                      pr0xyfl00d3r @Phaedrux
                      last edited by pr0xyfl00d3r

                      @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                      @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                      M558

                      Can you try adding A10 R0.5 S0.003 B0 to your M558 command?

                      This will set it to try up to 10 probes until it gets 2 consecutive readings within 0.003, and it will wait 0.5 seconds between probe travels to let the machine settle, and will disable any heaters during the probe move to eliminate any electrical interference.

                      I will after this file is finished..

                      in my simplify3d setting for the starting script i had the following

                      G28 ; home all axes
                      G29 ; auto bed level
                      G1 Z0.2 F3000 ; get ready to prime
                      G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
                      G1 X100 E10 F600 ; prime nozzle

                      which i changed to
                      G28 ; home all axes
                      G29 ; auto bed level
                      G28 ; home all axes
                      G1 Z0.56 F3000 ; get ready to prime
                      G92 E0 ; reset extrusion distance
                      G1 X100 E10 F600 ; prime nozzle

                      now it did not hit the bed and does go through the print, the 0.56 i got from following https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                      But can i simplify it or need much of it?

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                      • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                        pr0xyfl00d3r @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                        A10 R0.5 S0.003 B0

                        just to check add this to the end of the code i already have ?

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                        • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                          pr0xyfl00d3r @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                          It's totally possible that the bed is actually that warped. The color map exaggerates the differences to make them easy to see, but the actual deviations aren't that extreme. -1.5 to +0.4mm wouldn't surprise me for a Tronxy bed.

                          What happens if you print a test file like this? Does the bed compensation work to keep the first layer in contact?

                          0_1546986596745_bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

                          This is from the print

                          0_1546989223575_2F6669E3-8911-482A-9A54-B3A45A6FAE04.jpeg

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @pr0xyfl00d3r
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                            @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                            @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                            A10 R0.5 S0.003 B0

                            just to check add this to the end of the code i already have ?

                            Yup, add it to what you have already in your M558. Did it change the resulting heightmap at all?

                            @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                            the 0.56 i got from following https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                            That would be used in the G31 command to tell the printer how far the nozzle is from the bed when the probe triggers, but isn't useful elsewhere. You can prime the nozzle at whatever height you like. I use 0.3, but as long as it's doing what you want for the prime it can be whatever height you want. The slicer will move to the correct first layer height afterwards. Though it should be noted that having a Z move like that to prime the nozzle can confuse the DWC and result in the first layer height and layer counter to behave oddly. It may be better to move that nozzle prime into it's own macro that lives in the sys folder on the Duet. Then you can use M98 0:/sys/NozzlePrime.g to call it in your slicer start code.

                            @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                            This is from the print

                            That doesn't look too bad... Can you try again, this time with no brim, single perimeter, and a single layer of 0.2? That should make it easier to see.

                            @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                            But can i simplify it or need much of it?

                            Once you have the heightmap sorted out you may be able to get away with just doing a single detailed G29 once in a while and then loading the saved heightmap before the print rather than doing a less detailed but faster G29 before every print. It will depend on how well your bed maintains it's geometry/leveling.

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                            • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                              pr0xyfl00d3r @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              A10 R0.5 S0.003 B0

                              just to check add this to the end of the code i already have ?

                              Yup, add it to what you have already in your M558. Did it change the resulting heightmap at all?

                              @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              the 0.56 i got from following https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                              That would be used in the G31 command to tell the printer how far the nozzle is from the bed when the probe triggers, but isn't useful elsewhere. You can prime the nozzle at whatever height you like. I use 0.3, but as long as it's doing what you want for the prime it can be whatever height you want. The slicer will move to the correct first layer height afterwards. Though it should be noted that having a Z move like that to prime the nozzle can confuse the DWC and result in the first layer height and layer counter to behave oddly. It may be better to move that nozzle prime into it's own macro that lives in the sys folder on the Duet. Then you can use M98 0:/sys/NozzlePrime.g to call it in your slicer start code.

                              @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              This is from the print

                              That doesn't look too bad... Can you try again, this time with no brim, single perimeter, and a single layer of 0.2? That should make it easier to see.

                              @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              But can i simplify it or need much of it?

                              Once you have the heightmap sorted out you may be able to get away with just doing a single detailed G29 once in a while and then loading the saved heightmap before the print rather than doing a less detailed but faster G29 before every print. It will depend on how well your bed maintains it's geometry/leveling.

                              @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              A10 R0.5 S0.003 B0

                              just to check add this to the end of the code i already have ?

                              Yup, add it to what you have already in your M558. Did it change the resulting heightmap at all?

                              @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              the 0.56 i got from following https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

                              That would be used in the G31 command to tell the printer how far the nozzle is from the bed when the probe triggers, but isn't useful elsewhere. You can prime the nozzle at whatever height you like. I use 0.3, but as long as it's doing what you want for the prime it can be whatever height you want. The slicer will move to the correct first layer height afterwards. Though it should be noted that having a Z move like that to prime the nozzle can confuse the DWC and result in the first layer height and layer counter to behave oddly. It may be better to move that nozzle prime into it's own macro that lives in the sys folder on the Duet. Then you can use M98 0:/sys/NozzlePrime.g to call it in your slicer start code.

                              @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              This is from the print

                              That doesn't look too bad... Can you try again, this time with no brim, single perimeter, and a single layer of 0.2? That should make it easier to see.

                              @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                              But can i simplify it or need much of it?

                              Once you have the heightmap sorted out you may be able to get away with just doing a single detailed G29 once in a while and then loading the saved heightmap before the print rather than doing a less detailed but faster G29 before every print. It will depend on how well your bed maintains it's geometry/leveling.

                              Ok retrying the file...

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                              • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                                pr0xyfl00d3r
                                last edited by

                                What can i do to stop the Heatbed and hotend warming up before the bed leveling in the start script?

                                i keep getting Error: Z probe readings not consistent

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                                • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                                  pr0xyfl00d3r
                                  last edited by

                                  i have added Z Baby Stepping
                                  Current Offset: 0.2 mm and seems to be ok, i think i can see a slight bubble to the sheet on the bed

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @pr0xyfl00d3r
                                    last edited by

                                    @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                                    What can i do to stop the Heatbed and hotend warming up before the bed leveling in the start script?

                                    i keep getting Error: Z probe readings not consistent

                                    The slicer will add temp commands automatically if you don't add your own, so you could add some after the homing commands if you want.

                                    The probe readings not consistent error is because we've set the tolerance quite low with M558 S0.003 You can increase that value to make it less sensitive I think the default is 0.005.

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                                    • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                                      pr0xyfl00d3r
                                      last edited by

                                      @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                                      @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                                      What can i do to stop the Heatbed and hotend warming up before the bed leveling in the start script?

                                      i keep getting Error: Z probe readings not consistent

                                      The slicer will add temp commands automatically if you don't add your own, so you could add some after the homing commands if you want.

                                      The probe readings not consistent error is because we've set the tolerance quite low with M558 S0.003 You can increase that value to make it less sensitive I think the default is 0.005.

                                      Ok, will have to look into added some code maybe, thank you for your help with this is very appreciated.

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator @pr0xyfl00d3r
                                        last edited by

                                        @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                                        i have added Z Baby Stepping
                                        Current Offset: 0.2 mm and seems to be ok, i think i can see a slight bubble to the sheet on the bed

                                        If you find a consistent amount of baby stepping that you need you can add it to the G31 Z value to make it permanent.

                                        Has the height map image improved at all? Is the first layer going down better?

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                                        • pr0xyfl00d3rundefined
                                          pr0xyfl00d3r @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @phaedrux said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                                          @pr0xyfl00d3r said in Auto Bed Leveling Map on Tronxy X5SA:

                                          i have added Z Baby Stepping
                                          Current Offset: 0.2 mm and seems to be ok, i think i can see a slight bubble to the sheet on the bed

                                          If you find a consistent amount of baby stepping that you need you can add it to the G31 Z value to make it permanent.

                                          Has the height map image improved at all? Is the first layer going down better?

                                          Yes the map has flatten by half ish..

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