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    • GaRv3undefined
      GaRv3
      last edited by GaRv3

      Today I upgraded my Duet Wifi from 1.22 RCx (I believe it was RC3) to 1.22 and switched to DWC 2.0.0 RC3.

      I use a capacitive probe which alway worked for bed leveling. Now suddenly my probe does not work any more.

      The probe triggers (LED turns on) and the board recognizes it as well (LED on the board turns on too).
      DWC shows 0 for the Z-Probe and G29 crashes into the bed.

      Have not found anything in the upgrade notes that would explain this.
      Help would be appreciated. Thx!

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      • DocTruckerundefined
        DocTrucker
        last edited by

        Any reason why you've not moved to the 2.something firmware?

        Running 3 P3Steel with Duet 2. Duet 3 on the shelf looking for a suitable machine. One first generation Duet in a Logo/Turtle style robot!

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        • Jacotheronundefined
          Jacotheron
          last edited by

          Is the WifiServer now on the 1.22 (which was released very recently), or is it the main RepRapFirmware that is now only on 1.22 (which is currently stable at 2.02)? DWC2.0.0 RC 3 should not be compatible with anything earlier that RRF2.02.

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          • GaRv3undefined
            GaRv3
            last edited by

            Oh my, just realize this now... I mixed some numbers.

            Firmware is 2.02(a) including WifiServer 1.22
            DWC is 2.0.0 RC3

            Sorry for the confusion. The problem persists.

            This is really strange. I did not make any changes to the hardware.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Does the probe work for homing the printer?

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              • GaRv3undefined
                GaRv3
                last edited by

                I don't use the probe for homing.

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by dc42

                  Please share your config.g file and tell us how you connected the capacitive sensor to the Duet.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • GaRv3undefined
                    GaRv3
                    last edited by

                    It's connected to E0 Stop. Here is the config.g:

                    ; General preferences
                    M111 S0                                   	; Debugging off
                    G21                                       	; Work in millimetres
                    G90                                       	; Send absolute coordinates...
                    M83                                       	; ...but relative extruder moves
                    M555 P2                                   	; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
                    ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
                    
                    M667 S0                                   	; Select CoreXY mode: Cartesian
                    M208 X-26 Y-18 Z0 S1               		; Set axis minima (E3D V6)
                    M208 X225 Y210 Z230 S0				; Set axis maxima (E3D V6)
                    
                    ; Endstops and Probe
                    M574 X1 Y1 Z1 S1                    		; Set active high endstops (original end stops)
                    M558 P4 B1 H3 F120 T6000 I1               	; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds (inversed)
                    G31 P600 X-40 Y0 Z2.43                		; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height (left side probe with E3D V6)
                    M557 X20:177 Y20:177 S78.5                  	; Define mesh grid (left side probe with E3D V6)
                    
                    ; Map Drives
                    M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3				; X:0, Y:1, Z:2+4, E:3
                    
                    ; Drives
                    M569 P0 S1                                	; Drive 0 (X) goes forwards
                    M569 P1 S1                                	; Drive 1 (Y) goes forwards
                    M569 P2 S0                                	; Drive 2 (Z1/U) goes backwards
                    M569 P3 S0                                	; Drive 3 (E) goes backwards (Bowden)
                    M569 P4 S0                                	; Drive 4 (Z2/V) goes backwards
                    
                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1           		; Configure microstepping (interpolated)
                    M92 X100 Y100 Z400 E100         		; Set steps per mm (interpoloated)
                    M566 X1200 Y1200 Z18 E1200          		; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) (Jerk)
                    M201 X3000 Y3000 Z100 E30000  			; Set MAX accelerations (mm/s^2)
                    M203 X48000 Y48000 Z480 E3000     		; Set maximum speeds (feedrate) (mm/min)
                    M204 P800 T1000                         	; Set accelerations for print and travel moves (mm/s^2) <- faster
                    M906 X850 Y850 Z850 E850 I30    		; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                    M84 S60                                   	; Set idle timeout
                    
                    ; Pressure Advance
                    M572 D0 S0.4                            	; Set pressure advance
                    
                    ; Heaters
                    M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700            	; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0 (Bed)
                    M143 H0 S120                              	; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                    M305 P1 T100000 B3950 C0 R4700 			; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1 (E3D V6 - 3D Freunde)
                    M143 H1 S280                              	; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                    
                    ; Tools
                    M563 P0 D0 H1                             	; Define tool 0
                    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                    		; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                    G10 P0 R0 S0                              	; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                    
                    ; Network
                    M550 PAnet A8 Test                        	; Set machine name
                    M552 S1                                   	; Enable network
                    M587 S"GarMir" P"XXXXXXX" I192.168.0.70  	; Configure access point.
                    M586 P0 S1                                	; Enable HTTP
                    M586 P1 S1                                	; Enable FTP
                    M586 P2 S0                                	; Disable Telnet
                    
                    ; Fans
                    M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H-1                    	; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                    M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                 	; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                    M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45                 	; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                    
                    ; CPU Temperature Calibration
                    M912 P0 S-16.5
                    
                    ; Load saved Settings
                    M501                                      	; Load config-override.g 
                    
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                    • GPetropoulosundefined
                      GPetropoulos
                      last edited by

                      Your trigger height is very high. You should home z with the probe and (G92 Z0) in order to resolve that.

                      What happens when you put the probe over the bed at some point and send "G30 S-1"?

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                      • GaRv3undefined
                        GaRv3 @GPetropoulos
                        last edited by

                        @gpetropoulos The trigger height is so high because the nozzle is below bed level when homed. I home Z next to the bed using an endstop, then lift the nozzle up and calibrate using this high dive height. Worked for about one year.
                        I will test this tomorrow.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @GaRv3
                          last edited by

                          @garv3 how did you obtain the trigger height?

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                          • GaRv3undefined
                            GaRv3
                            last edited by GaRv3

                            Oh, you were talking about the trigger height - not the dive height. Believe me, the trigger height is perfect.
                            This is not an issue at all. The problem is that the probe triggers (I can see the LEDs on the probe and the PCB light up) but G29 ignores it and does not stop moving down.
                            G30 S-1 crashed into the bed as well! LEDs light up but Z keeps moving down.
                            Btw: G31 always reports 0 - no matter if the probe is active or not.

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                            • GaRv3undefined
                              GaRv3
                              last edited by

                              Went back to:
                              Firmware Version: 2.02RC2(RTOS) (2018-09-07b2)
                              WiFi Server Version: 1.22
                              Web Interface Version: 1.22.3
                              => Bed leveling works just fine!

                              So this has to be a firmware issue ☹

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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators
                                last edited by dc42

                                1. Please check that you don't have any other M558 commands anywhere, for example elsewhere in config.g, config-override.g. or homing files.

                                2. With firmware 2.02 running, send M558 without parameters. Check that it reports probe type 4 and input 3.

                                3. Then do the static test described at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Static_test_of_the_Z_probe. [I guess you've already done that because you reported "G31 always reports 0 - no matter if the probe is active or not."]

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                • GaRv3undefined
                                  GaRv3
                                  last edited by GaRv3

                                  @dc42 said in Probe does not work with 2.02a + DWC 2.0.0 RC3:

                                  M558 is only present in the config.g at this single line.

                                  I put the this version back on the sd card:
                                  Duet Web Control 2.0.0-RC3
                                  Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                                  Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
                                  Duet WiFi Server Version: 1.22

                                  Now everything got even worse.
                                  When homing Z crashes into lower limits pushing against the endstop!

                                  M119 reports the correct values though.
                                  When the Z endstop is not triggered:
                                  Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: at min stop, Z: not stopped, U: at min stop, V: at min stop, Z probe: not stopped
                                  When it is:
                                  Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: at min stop, Z: at min stop, U: at min stop, V: at min stop, Z probe: not stopped

                                  M558 reports this:
                                  Z Probe type 4, input 3, invert yes, dive height 7.0mm, probe speed 120mm/min, travel speed 6000mm/min, recovery time 0.00 sec, heaters suspended, max taps 1, max diff 0.03

                                  G31
                                  Will always report 0. No matter if the probe is close to the bed and the LEDs are on or not.

                                  This is becoming really strange...

                                  EDIT:
                                  Manually replaced all firmware binaries on the SD card and now homing works again.
                                  But the problems with the probe persist. G31 reports 0 - no matter what.

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                                  • GaRv3undefined
                                    GaRv3
                                    last edited by

                                    So no idea what causes this?

                                    Firmware: 2.02RC2(RTOS) (2018-09-07b2)
                                    WiFi: 1.22
                                    DWC: 1.22.3
                                    -> everything works as expected

                                    Firmware: 2.02(RTOS) (2018-12-24b1)
                                    WiFi: 1.22
                                    DWC 2.0.0-RC3
                                    -> probe ignored

                                    This must be a firmware issue. No one interested in fixing it?

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
                                      last edited by

                                      My guess is that the output of your capacitive sensor isn't pulling the E0 endstop input low enough to trigger the probe reliably. The processor's internal pullup resistor is enabled for the endstop inputs in 2.02, and possibly it wasn't in RC2.

                                      Is the output of the capacitive sensor connected to the E0- input directly, or though a diode? If it is through a diode, is it a Schottky diode? Some users have found that only Schottky diodes work with their NPN-output sensors.

                                      It may be better to connect the probe output to the IN pin of the Z probe connector instead of the E0 endstop input, and to use P5 in the M558 command. That will give a slightly higher trigger threshold.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • GaRv3undefined
                                        GaRv3
                                        last edited by GaRv3

                                        It's connected using one of these diodes:
                                        https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01COV7LCC/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                                        I will try using the z probe connector input. Will I have to change anything but the M558 after doing so?

                                        Btw: It worked with all previous firmware versions.

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @GaRv3
                                          last edited by

                                          @garv3 said in Probe does not work with 2.02a + DWC 2.0.0 RC3:

                                          It's connected using one of these diodes:
                                          https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01COV7LCC/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                                          I will try using the z probe connector input. Will I have to change anything but the M558 after doing so?

                                          Btw: It worked with all previous firmware versions.

                                          That's not a Schottky diode, so I think my hypothesis was correct. Using a BAT43 or BAT85 diode instead of the 1N4148 would probably fix it.

                                          You don't need to change anything other than the M558 command if you use the Z probe connector instead. There is a chance that the sensor may have too much leakage and show as permanently triggered, but it's unlikely.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • GaRv3undefined
                                            GaRv3
                                            last edited by GaRv3

                                            @dc42 said in Probe does not work with 2.02a + DWC 2.0.0 RC3:

                                            That's not a Schottky diode, so I think my hypothesis was correct. Using a BAT43 or BAT85 diode instead of the 1N4148 would probably fix it.

                                            But why does it work with all other FW versions?

                                            Using the z probe connector does not change anything.

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