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    • anderundefined
      ander @Alexander Mundy
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      @alexander-mundy This system was also built thinking on putting a camera to the moveable arm...i designed some holes to attach a camera in a future

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      • timcurtis67undefined
        timcurtis67 @ander
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        @ander said in Flying extruder with 4th axis:

        By the way the pitch i´m using is 1.25mm. It is a regular M8 thread

        You can always use a lower microstep setting (1/4 or 1/2) or just use full steps but you will have much more stepper motor noise that way. It will move faster though.

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        • anderundefined
          ander
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          I just found and ordered 4 lead screw of 1m long, is going to move so much faster, and this way i don´t have to change anything to the original setup for now....after uploading the firmware we will see if aditional features are needed when testing like some system to help the motor not to be super bowncy

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          • anderundefined
            ander
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            Hi there!!
            I just received the lead screw, tomorrow i will change it so the 4th axis can move so much faster.

            @dc42 , did you have any chance of working on the firmware?
            i had to cut the 1.2m teflon tube that was going from the motor to the hotend to make the modification and now the printer is not working ever since.

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @ander
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              @ander said in Flying extruder with 4th axis:

              Hi there!!
              I just received the lead screw, tomorrow i will change it so the 4th axis can move so much faster.

              @dc42 , did you have any chance of working on the firmware?
              i had to cut the 1.2m teflon tube that was going from the motor to the hotend to make the modification and now the printer is not working ever since.

              I'm sorry, I won't have time to look at this until the 2.02 release is finished.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • anderundefined
                ander
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                Hi there!!
                Did you have any chance to look at the 4th axis firmware? My delta is stopped since then 😞

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  Yes, I have a build of RRF that supports up to 6 axes on a delta. Still some testing to do, but maybe you can help me with that?

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                  • anderundefined
                    ander
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                    Hi There!
                    Of course i can help, my printer is ready for testing, tell me what to do and i will tell the results.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by dc42

                      Please follow the instructions at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareDeltaPrinter?revisionid=HEAD#Section_Adding_additional_towers_to_carry_flying_extruders and use the binary at https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyvibzm0zl92hiy/Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin?dl=0. Caution: this is mostly untested! I suggest you test it at low speeds and reduced motor currents, and that you do not mount the extruder on the 4th carriage yet.

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                      • Monster Deltaundefined
                        Monster Delta
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                        which motor output would i use on the duet wifi or would i have to use a duex 5

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by dc42

                          Use M584 to create a U axis using any available motor output.

                          EDIT: I've just added some more to that new section on the page I linked to earlier.

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                          • anderundefined
                            ander
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                            Hi there
                            M584 can be used to create a new axis but, where exactly i have to add that, in config.g after M669?

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
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                              Put the M584 command near the start, before M665, M666 and M669.

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                              • anderundefined
                                ander
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                                Hi there
                                I succesfully created the new axis, i can see in the machine status that i have a new axis called U.
                                when starting the printer the U position is marking 0.00 endstop pushed or not(the led brights on the duet en pushing so the conection is fine) while the other axis in n/a.
                                I put in homedelta.g the U axis to be homed, but when trying to home all the axis, the only ones they home are the normal ones. i try to home manually the U axis and shows me the error: Homing file homeu.g not found. And i cannot move it manually either, not to the positive side neither the negative

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  Please post your config.g and homedelta.g files.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                                  • anderundefined
                                    ander
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                                    Hi
                                    I´m also getting another error that says could not update homedelta.g.
                                    Here i´m adding what you asked me, just keep in mind that i have an endstop switch in the extruder, similar to what the atom printer mounts.

                                    1_1549013751464_config.g
                                    0_1549013751464_homedelta.g

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @ander
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                                      @ander said in Flying extruder with 4th axis:

                                      I´m also getting another error that says could not update homedelta.g.

                                      That probably means that the printer is still executing homedelta.g. You can use the Emergency Stop button to reset it.

                                      You need to add the correct U parameter to the following commands in config.g:

                                      M92 M906

                                      and optionally also add a U parameter to M350.

                                      Your M574 U parameter should be U2 because it is (or should be) at the high end of the tower.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by dc42

                                        PS - also:

                                        1. I suggest you add parameter P3 to the M584 command in config.g to hide the U axis. Then insert M584 P4 near the start of homedelta.g to un-hide it, and M584 P3 after the second G1 S1 line.

                                        2. Remove the U-5 parameter from line 9 of homedelta.g. That G1 command is a normal move command (no S1 or S2 parameter), so U will track Z.

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                                        • anderundefined
                                          ander
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                                          Still doesn´t work, the U axis is not showing in the beginning, then it shows, tries to home and says it can´t after a while....i found some error....if i push the endstop of the U axis the z probe switches in the duet control panel. but the conection is in E0 so it is right

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                                          • anderundefined
                                            ander
                                            last edited by

                                            G28 U
                                            homing file not found
                                            it is giving that error, here goes my files after doing those changes, i still have the problem i sayd before about the endstops
                                            1_1549017082633_config.g
                                            0_1549017082632_homedelta.g

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