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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957 @sslouch
      last edited by

      @sslouch Can you post a pic of it without the nimble+adaptor mounted I would like to see the top of the V6 heatsink with the PTFE Installed?

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      • sslouchundefined
        sslouch
        last edited by

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        • crynoolundefined
          crynool
          last edited by crynool

          Doublecheck the wires / crimps in worst case, redo them to be sure (on both ends).

          When you tap the hotend while connected, does the LED flash?

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          • Mikeundefined
            Mike
            last edited by

            Also check that your fan isn't too powerful/too close to the strain gauge. I've had it fail with some high current Sunon fans, solved by moving the fan further from the center.

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            • Dougal1957undefined
              Dougal1957 @sslouch
              last edited by

              @sslouch that looks ok does your PTFE tube protrude thro the nimble adaptor or does it end flush or slightly below the surface?

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              • sslouchundefined
                sslouch
                last edited by

                Thanks all.

                @crynool No, it does not flash when you tap hot end.

                @Mike It is the same fan that I have always used with no issues until now.

                @Dougal1957 The tube ends flush with top of adapter/bottom of Nimble.

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                • crynoolundefined
                  crynool
                  last edited by

                  If it does not flash, it is either the wiring or the PCB.

                  I managed to screw one smart effector, was just a tiny spot on the PCB, looked like some 'dirt', was actually this was causing lot of trouble as I could not calibrate the printer. Was showing different results everytime....

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                  • sslouchundefined
                    sslouch
                    last edited by

                    @crynool I am afraid it is the PCB. Unfortunately they appear to be out of stock until mid February 😞
                    I found a different mounting adapter that uses the magball mount points instead so I will try when I get a new one. Guess we are down until then.

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      @sslouch, if you have a multimeter then you can check the traces.

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                      Measure the resistance between the right hand end of R11 and the left hand end of R13. Also between the right hand end of R11 and the left hand end of R14. Both readings should be around 30 ohms and within about 20% of each other.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • sslouchundefined
                        sslouch
                        last edited by

                        @dc42

                        Thanks

                        Trace

                        R11R --> R13 ~16.6 K Ohms 😞

                        R11R --> R14 ~35 Ohms

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by dc42

                          If you can identify where the damage to the trace is, you might be able to bridge it if the damaged area isn't too large. It's not easy though because the traces are so fine.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          • sslouchundefined
                            sslouch
                            last edited by

                            Couldn't get it fixed but I finally received a new smart effector yesterday after being out of stock for a while. Unfortunately, they have changed the configuration of the connectors and as a result it can no longer be used as shown in the documentation on Filastruder. They have moved the thermistor connector to the other side of the PCB so now the heat sink fan no longer fits there. The only place it can go is in the front where the print fan is (was). I was using the print fan bracket and print fan duct from @dc42 on thingiverse. Does anyone have any suggestions for a print fan for this new PCB configuration? Thanks!

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by dc42

                              The print fan bracket that I published still fits the version 2 Smart Effector. I updated the fitting instructions at https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer#Section_Assembly to cover both versions a couple of weeks ago. The heatsink fan goes on the opposite side compared to version 1.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • sslouchundefined
                                sslouch
                                last edited by sslouch

                                Haha. That's easy enough. Thanks @dc42! I didn't think it would fit there and hate to admit I didn't even try 🙂 I was able to confirm the z-probe is working again though!

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