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Problems updating firmware - now board unconcious!

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    SimonRafferty
    last edited by 26 Oct 2016, 16:27

    Thanks David - I'll try that now!

    Si

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      SimonRafferty
      last edited by 26 Oct 2016, 17:21

      Sadly - that didn't help!
      No obvious corruption. Did a low level format and restored the original files from Github - behaves the same
      Tried brand new 8Gb Card with original then my edited files - still nothing.
      Any other options?

      Si

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        dc42 administrators
        last edited by 26 Oct 2016, 17:45

        I can think of the following possibilities:

        1. Something in your config.g is triggering an undiscovered firmware bug. But if you have restored config.g from github, we can rule that out.

        2. A power supply problem. If you are using USB power only, bear in mind that a typical PC USB port cannot handle a Duet + 7" screen, and some USB ports may struggle to handle a Duet + 5" screen.

        3. A fault has developed on your Duet WiFi. If you have ruled out (1) and (2), ask your supplier for a replacement under warranty. You will probably be asked to send your Duet WiFi to me for investigation.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          SimonRafferty
          last edited by 26 Oct 2016, 18:51

          And the answer is….2 - well, kind of
          It turns out that the firmware was running OK. Every time the ESP tries to connect (Blue LED Flashes), the power dips and the board reboots.
          I've tried powering the board via a powered USB Hub, with PanelDUE disconnected - and Pronterface then connects.
          But......
          When you send M552 S1 to connect to the network, the same thing happens and it re-boots. Later I'll put a scope on the Vcc line to see.
          Same happens powering the board from 24v.
          I think therefore it is a power issue - the USB / On board regulator cannot supply enough juice for the ESP.

          Si

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            dc42 administrators
            last edited by 26 Oct 2016, 19:00

            It sounds like the ESP on your Duet WiFi needs to be replaced. Contact your supplier for a replacement board.

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              SimonRafferty
              last edited by 26 Oct 2016, 20:18

              That's a shame. Will do.

              Thanks for your speedy help.

              Si

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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by 27 Oct 2016, 07:01

                One more thing to check: disconnect anything you have that might be drawing excessive power from the 3.3v rail, such as the Z probe and any endstop switches you have that use the centre pin of the endstop connector. It could be chat the 3.3V regulator is overheating.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  SimonRafferty
                  last edited by 27 Oct 2016, 08:43

                  I put a scope on it last night. The 3.3v rail stays within a few mV - no spikes or drop-outs that I could see.

                  There's nothing getting obviously hot:

                  The hottest point top right, is the SD Socket
                  The alignment of the visual & thermal on this is a bit out - but you get the idea.

                  These were taken after the board had been powered (from 24v) for half an hour in a pretty cold workshop (16C)

                  Si

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                    SimonRafferty
                    last edited by 27 Oct 2016, 09:19

                    I've disconnected the Z probe. None of my end-stops use the centre pin - but I disconnected them as well. No change.

                    The only thing that makes a difference is to comment out this line in Config.g
                    ;M552 S1 ; Start WiFi

                    Then it's as normal, but without the Wifi (Obviously).

                    I think it's reasonable to conclude that the ESP is dodgy!

                    Si

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                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by 27 Oct 2016, 09:33

                      Looks like the processor is warm and so is the 3.3V regulator. That is normal. What surprises me is that the crystal and the SD socket appear to be warmer than either.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        elmoret
                        last edited by 27 Oct 2016, 12:58

                        I'd guess that's IR reflections from the room.

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                          SimonRafferty
                          last edited by 28 Oct 2016, 13:37

                          My guess is the SD socket is 'hot' because of the residual heat from me holding the SD Card. It's perfectly possible I touched the Xtal at the same time! Mind you, they are only 2C warmer than ambient - so not exactly hot.

                          I'd like to thank David for his help and Roland from T3P3 for sending a new board (which works perfectly) so quickly. It arrived at mid-day today. I'll return the dodgy one to David by return.

                          Exemplary service all round!

                          Si

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