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  • undefined
    tenjin
    last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 02:41

    help!

    my Duex5 seems to not be working well

    i have been able to use PWM5 for my bltouch, that part works, but the motors are not working

    here is the config that does not drive the motors: 0_1551926112738_config -- Does not work.g

    here is a config that drives the motors using driver 2 and 4 0_1551926117314_config -- works.g

    the truly concerning part for me is the lack of seeing the duex in M115

    7:36:21 PM M115
    FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.03beta2 ELECTRONICS: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-02-16b1

    output of m122 with every thing but the BL touch on the duet:

    7:37:29 PM=== Diagnostics ===
    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.03beta2 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
    Board ID: 08DGM-917DA-G4MS4-6JTDA-3S06S-T8ZHA
    Used output buffers: 3 of 20 (15 max)
    === RTOS ===
    Static ram: 25532
    Dynamic ram: 91720 of which 0 recycled
    Exception stack ram used: 360
    Never used ram: 13460
    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,544) HEAT(blocked,1236) MAIN(running,3784) IDLE(ready,196)
    Owned mutexes:
    === Platform ===
    Last reset 00:05:55 ago, cause: software
    Last software reset at 2019-03-06 19:31, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 13492 bytes (slot 3)
    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
    Error status: 0
    Free file entries: 10
    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
    SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
    MCU temperature: min 37.7, current 38.0, max 38.1
    Supply voltage: min 12.0, current 12.0, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
    Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Date/time: 1970-01-01 00:00:00
    Cache data hit count 1291325566
    Slowest loop: 1.11ms; fastest: 0.08ms
    I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0
    === Move ===
    Hiccups: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 160, MaxWait: 0ms, Underruns: 0, 0
    Scheduled moves: 5, completed moves: 5
    Bed compensation in use: none
    Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
    === Heat ===
    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
    === GCodes ===
    Segments left: 0
    Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
    Movement lock held by null
    http is idle in state(s) 0
    telnet is idle in state(s) 0
    file is idle in state(s) 0
    serial is idle in state(s) 0
    aux is idle in state(s) 0
    daemon is idle in state(s) 0
    queue is idle in state(s) 0
    autopause is idle in state(s) 0
    Code queue is empty.
    === Network ===
    Slowest loop: 202.16ms; fastest: 0.08ms
    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

    • WiFi -
      Network state is running
      WiFi module is connected to access point
      Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1
      WiFi firmware version 1.23beta1
      WiFi MAC address b4:e6:2d:53:16:0e
      WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
      WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 22736
      WiFi IP address 10.0.1.20
      WiFi signal strength -51dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
      Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    and with motor drivers 8 and 9

    M122
    === Diagnostics ===
    RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.03beta2 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
    Board ID: 08DGM-917DA-G4MS4-6JTDA-3S06S-T8ZHA
    Used output buffers: 3 of 20 (6 max)
    === RTOS ===
    Static ram: 25532
    Dynamic ram: 91720 of which 0 recycled
    Exception stack ram used: 328
    Never used ram: 13492
    Tasks: NETWORK(ready,544) HEAT(blocked,1236) MAIN(running,3792) IDLE(ready,196)
    Owned mutexes:
    === Platform ===
    Last reset 00:00:15 ago, cause: software
    Last software reset time unknown, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 13460 bytes (slot 0)
    Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0441f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
    Error status: 0
    Free file entries: 10
    SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
    SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
    MCU temperature: min 37.9, current 38.6, max 38.7
    Supply voltage: min 12.0, current 12.0, max 12.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
    Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
    Date/time: 2019-03-06 19:38:52
    Cache data hit count 44553741
    Slowest loop: 3.67ms; fastest: 0.07ms
    I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0
    === Move ===
    Hiccups: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 160, MaxWait: 0ms, Underruns: 0, 0
    Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0
    Bed compensation in use: none
    Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
    === Heat ===
    Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
    === GCodes ===
    Segments left: 0
    Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
    Movement lock held by null
    http is idle in state(s) 0
    telnet is idle in state(s) 0
    file is idle in state(s) 0
    serial is idle in state(s) 0
    aux is idle in state(s) 0
    daemon is idle in state(s) 0
    queue is idle in state(s) 0
    autopause is idle in state(s) 0
    Code queue is empty.
    === Network ===
    Slowest loop: 15.54ms; fastest: 0.00ms
    Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
    HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

    • WiFi -
      Network state is running
      WiFi module is connected to access point
      Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
      WiFi firmware version 1.23beta1
      WiFi MAC address b4:e6:2d:53:16:0e
      WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
      WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 25488
      WiFi IP address 10.0.1.20
      WiFi signal strength -50dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
      Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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    • undefined
      tenjin
      last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 20:51

      I presume by the lack of input i either didnt post enough information, or no one has a clue?

      deckingmanundefined 1 Reply Last reply 7 Mar 2019, 21:51 Reply Quote 0
      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 21:16

        It may take a day or two before someone who has a good answer comes along.

        One thing I can think of off the top of my head. Do you have the grounding wiring setup as described in the duex wiki? I'm not a duex expert.

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • undefined
          tenjin
          last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 21:24

          yes, i have a solid core wire, as short as humanly possible, with the duet / duex side by side for testing

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          • undefined
            gavatron3000
            last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 21:40

            the ribbon cable is connected correctly also? M122 for me shows the duex. And the cross sectional area of your supply to the duex is at least 2.5mm²?

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            • deckingmanundefined
              deckingman @tenjin
              last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 21:51

              @tenjin The Duex5 should show up on the "Setting - general" page of DWC next to "Firmware Electronics" like this:

              Firmware Electronics: Duet Ethernet 1.0 or 1.01 + DueX5

              And it should be reported by M115 like this:

              FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet FIRMWARE_VERSION: 2.03beta2 ELECTRONICS: Duet Ethernet 1.0 or 1.01 + DueX5 FIRMWARE_DATE: 2019-02-16b1

              So it's not your configuration. It's either the wiring, or a faulty ribbon cable or connector, or a faulty board I guess. What happens if you connect an end stop to one of the Duex5 end stop connectors? Does the associated LED light up and change state if you trigger the switch?

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

              undefined 1 Reply Last reply 7 Mar 2019, 22:08 Reply Quote 0
              • undefined
                tenjin @deckingman
                last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 22:08

                @deckingman

                I will double check the endstop...

                As to the guage of the wire, i do not recall the guage off hand, i can confirm when i get home

                its thicker copper core than standard house wiring though, really beefy, probably 14, if not 12 ga.

                output from settings -> general:

                Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet
                Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                Firmware Version: 2.03beta2 (2019-02-16b1)
                WiFi Server Version: 1.23beta1
                Web Interface Version: 1.22.6

                deckingmanundefined 1 Reply Last reply 7 Mar 2019, 22:18 Reply Quote 0
                • deckingmanundefined
                  deckingman @tenjin
                  last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 22:18

                  @tenjin I doubt it's the wire gauge. The board just isn't being "seen" at all.

                  I hesitate to ask this but you have got them wired + to + and _ to _ haven't you? It's just that the boards are designed to fit back to back so the terminals are reversed on the Duex compared to the Duet main board so it would be an easy mistake to make.

                  Ian
                  https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                  https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

                  undefined 1 Reply Last reply 7 Mar 2019, 22:22 Reply Quote 0
                  • undefined
                    tenjin @deckingman
                    last edited by tenjin 3 Jul 2019, 22:23 7 Mar 2019, 22:22

                    @deckingman

                    don't hesitate, I'm not immune to mistakes 😉

                    in this instance though yes, i have them correct, reverse polarity as compared to the duet due to the design for back to back fitment , if there is any thing working IT and as a network engineer has taught me, check, recheck, check again, and recheck one more time before you plug that thing in, mistakes are bad 😉

                    when i get home i can take a picture for more clarification if needed.

                    deckingmanundefined 1 Reply Last reply 7 Mar 2019, 22:50 Reply Quote 0
                    • deckingmanundefined
                      deckingman @tenjin
                      last edited by 7 Mar 2019, 22:50

                      @tenjin No I believe you. Personally I'm leaning towards it being a fault with the ribbon cable or maybe the board itself, but I'm just an end user like you. Maybe one of the Duet team will step in with some better ideas.

                      Ian
                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                      • undefined
                        tenjin
                        last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 01:13

                        under this chip

                        0_1552007510645_IMG_1060.JPG

                        are these solder pads

                        0_1552007501633_IMG_1063.JPG

                        wonder if there is just a bad solder job causing it?

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                        • undefined
                          tenjin
                          last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 15:23

                          @dc42

                          i see you are rather knowledgeable on the duet / duex products, Have you got any input on this one? im a bit at a loss where to go.

                          Kind of starting to regret my decisions to go this route. -- expensive learning experience so far.

                          recap: hardware: duet wifi + duex 5 + paneldue 7i

                          currently i have all fans working as intended, 3 PWM fans on the Duet, one thermostatically controlled hotend cooler
                          one tool fan
                          one thermostatically controlled MCU fan

                          x and y are in original intended motor drivers and work fine

                          z i want on drivers 8 and 9, eventually will be 7 8 9 when i finish my coreXY with tripple z screws.

                          BL touch is using PWM 5 on the Duex and prob connector on duet, as described here: https://betrue3d.dk/bltouch-on-duet-wifi-configuratio-and-usage/

                          and surprizingly it actually works, while i cannot get the motor drivers on the duex to work

                          setting the motor drivers for z to 2:4 works fine.

                          also noticed last night, one of the endstop LEDs on the duex is permanantly on but super dim, i want to say it was stop 5?

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 15:38

                            Looks like a bad DueX5, bad ribbon cable, or just possibly a bad Duet. Please ask your supplier to replace the DueX5 and ribbon cable.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

                            undefined 1 Reply Last reply 8 Mar 2019, 16:12 Reply Quote 0
                            • undefined
                              tenjin @dc42
                              last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 16:12

                              @dc42

                              Not shocked at the suspicion of a failed duex, it was mine from the get go, supplier asked that i open a thread and get a response from you guys to validate the claim for RMA

                              thanks for reviewing and confirming.

                              dc42undefined 1 Reply Last reply 8 Mar 2019, 18:18 Reply Quote 0
                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @tenjin
                                last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 18:18

                                @tenjin, I'm sorry it took a day to respond to your post. I'm very busy with getting Duet 3 working and other stuff right now, so I'm not reading the forum as often as usual.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

                                undefined 1 Reply Last reply 8 Mar 2019, 18:19 Reply Quote 1
                                • undefined
                                  tenjin @dc42
                                  last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 18:19

                                  @dc42

                                  What, you mean your not my dedicated servant??!!!

                                  no worries, absolutely appreciate your help

                                  now to get my Duex5 RMA'd

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt
                                    last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 18:19

                                    Hi,

                                    While I don't have an specific answer for you regarding your current problem I can say the combo should work fine.

                                    I have five printers equipped with the Duet WiFi/Duex 5 combo and have had not issues.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • undefined
                                      tenjin
                                      last edited by 9 Mar 2019, 04:43

                                      @dc42

                                      i just realized ... thats your name silk screened on this duex5 isnt it ....

                                      thats freaking amazing customer service if the lead product engineer is trouble shooting things for customers.

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                                      • undefined
                                        tony449777
                                        last edited by 27 Apr 2020, 22:16

                                        I’m having the same problem. I have 3 z motors connected to my Duex5 board and a BL touch in PWM1 or E2 heater. The board does not show up when I use M115, however when I Turn the printer on the BL touch probe cycles.
                                        When I home all, the heater light for the two lights up showing that it is activating the probe. How can the board not be showing up but also still activating the probe?

                                        undefined 1 Reply Last reply 27 Apr 2020, 22:20 Reply Quote 0
                                        • undefined
                                          tony449777 @tony449777
                                          last edited by 27 Apr 2020, 22:20

                                          I also forgot to mention I finished building this printer two weeks ago, and have been using it for a week plus and everything has worked great.

                                          Phaedruxundefined 1 Reply Last reply 28 Apr 2020, 02:24 Reply Quote 0
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