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Delta FSR G32 Calibration Not Converging

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    4lathe
    last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 03:45

    I have an Ultibots D300vs delta with fsr’s. I recently put a magnetic base plate on it and have been facing difficulties with autocal. Doing say 5 or 6 g32’s, I get the After values between .020 and .022 but Before values between .40 and .44. So both Before and After converge but not to the same number. Does this provide a clue as to what might be wrong? Thx for any help.

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      dc42 administrators @4lathe
      last edited by 8 Mar 2019, 18:22

      That suggests inconsistent probe readings. I'm out of the office right now but I recall a couple of threads on this forum giving macro files to do probe repeatability tests. You could also look at the M558 options for probing each point more than once.

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        4lathe
        last edited by 9 Mar 2019, 02:17

        I have my printed be set to .015 tolerance and up to 5 retries. I’ve done repeatability tests.
        The first pic is 2 g30 s-1 at each of 10 points.
        The second is multiple bed probes with s-1.
        The 3rd pic is multiple g32’s with no homing in between.
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          4lathe
          last edited by 9 Mar 2019, 02:22

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            4lathe
            last edited by 9 Mar 2019, 21:02

            Sorry to chime in again but I realized pic 2 and 3 are reversed from my description. The max deviation at a given point across the g30 s-1’s in pic 3 is .023 but most are much smaller. @dc42 I think I read anothe rpost of yours saying that with .9 steppers that I should be at .01 repeatability. Are the few that are over that a potential cause for the Before and After not converging with g32’s?

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              4lathe
              last edited by 11 Mar 2019, 20:37

              Tried more mechanics, new wheels and bearings, belts, tightened everything. This .02 tolerance on z probe with up to 3 tries at each point. No g28 between g32’s. Anyone have any ideas?
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                Alexander Mundy
                last edited by 12 Mar 2019, 00:44

                How tight is the bed in the bed clamps? On my Ultibots K250 when I had FSR's there was a very narrow range of tightness that they worked good but didn't allow layer shift.

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                  Alexander Mundy
                  last edited by 12 Mar 2019, 00:44

                  Also changed the jumpers on the board for full sensitivity

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                    4lathe
                    last edited by 12 Mar 2019, 07:09

                    I have printed different brackets than stock because of new magnetic bed. There is plenty of gap there. I never experience any layer shift. I’ve tried with sensitivity on the fsr’s all the way down to 25 and up to 500.
                    The After value always stabilizes but the Before cycles. It must have to do with the algorithm .

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                      Alexander Mundy
                      last edited by 12 Mar 2019, 10:30

                      I went to look for the jumper settings I mentioned that affect sensitive and it appears the newer JohnSL boards don't have them.

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                        4lathe
                        last edited by 13 Mar 2019, 00:41

                        I think sensitivity is all in doftware now. I just replaced the fsr’s to see if that was it but still the same. I’m at wit’s end unless someone sees a pattern in these numbers that gives me a clue what to look for.

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                          Alexander Mundy
                          last edited by 13 Mar 2019, 01:15

                          Are you sure the towers aren't out of alignment slightly?

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                            4lathe @Alexander Mundy
                            last edited by 13 Mar 2019, 01:43

                            Checked with machinist’s square.

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                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by 18 Mar 2019, 17:17

                              If you calibrate a few times, then replace S6 by S-1 on the last G30 command in bed.g, then run the G32 several times again (it wont adjust the calibration, it will just print the errors), does it report consistent height errors?

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