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    • buzzbyundefined
      buzzby
      last edited by

      This is the model

      although the issue is not specific to this model and is easy to replicate on almost all models. It is worse on round models where the seam cannot be pushed to the corner.

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      • dc42undefined
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        It's hard to eliminate seams completely, but when they bulge like that, pressure advance usually helps.

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        • buzzbyundefined
          buzzby
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          I've done a few tests setting up pressure advance. Using 0.1,0.2,0.5 and 1 as options.
          Printing a simple cylinder, just 2 walls. No infill on top / bottom.

          I have the expected very noticeable seam but all 4 prints look identical

          Running the M572 shows that it has been set.
          Running 1.2 firmware

          0_1553095718917_2019-03-20 15.27.39.jpg

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman @buzzby
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            @buzzby That's fairly conclusive that pressure advance on it's own won't cure your problem. Having said that, there are all sorts of interactions between speed, acceleration, instantaneous speed change (jerk), retraction, temperature and pressure advance. Especially extruder jerk and acceleration. That's why it's always best to get everything else dialled in as well as possible, and only then try pressure advance.

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @buzzby
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              @buzzby said in Is this a firmware or slicing issue (pressure advance?):

              I've done a few tests setting up pressure advance. Using 0.1,0.2,0.5 and 1 as options.
              Printing a simple cylinder, just 2 walls. No infill on top / bottom.
              I have the expected very noticeable seam but all 4 prints look identical

              Odd, I would have expected some difference. At the higher pressure advance settings, can you see the extruder gears moving backwards just before the end of each perimeter?

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              • buzzbyundefined
                buzzby @dc42
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                @dc42
                I can certainly hear the difference in the extruder as it back off and on.

                Do the jerk settings I have currently look ok or should they be changed?
                Not sure which command that is.

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                • dc42undefined
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                  M566 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E3000 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 X39960 Y39960 Z39960 E3000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E1500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)

                  M566 is the jerk setting. Those are OK if the extruder is not skipping steps. If it is, reduce the E value.

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                  • Martin1454undefined
                    Martin1454
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                    Increasing extrusion width in your slicer can help with it - I ran my 0,4mm nozzle at 0,6mm extrusion width for an pretty good result - also another type of nozzle can also make a difference.

                    Have you seen if it is in the start of the line or the end of the line, that the blob orccurs?.

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                    • buzzbyundefined
                      buzzby @Martin1454
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                      @martin1454 Looking at the print it looks like the start and end of the line have the extra "blob"

                      I tried a different slicer (slic3r) and got pretty much the same result (no pressure advance though) Cura definitely does a little swipe from the outer layer in but changing the wipe setting to 0 doesn't make any difference

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                      • Martin1454undefined
                        Martin1454 @buzzby
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                        @buzzby

                        Try playing around with negative restart distance (0.05-0.2mm) and see if that helps.

                        Otherwise, as said earlier, try in slic3r (PE?) and change "default extrusion width" to something like 0.5 or 0.6 and see if helps - It did for me.

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