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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Yes 450 or 500W sounds about right for your printer.

      Can you confirm that you are using a SSR to control the bed heater? The Duet WiFi is rated at 15A bed heater current, but your heater will draw 23.3A.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • capundefined
        cap
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        no im not whats a ssr

        edit

        ok i did say im no engineer but i do love this guy i think if you sent this guy a board asking him to do full review and setup blog it would help your sale to low tech peeps like me and boost your sales
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiEwNf1H_Tc
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiEwNf1H_Tc

        thanks for the help good job ive only got low hours with my prnter plugged in ill get this sorted with out going stupid money what would be a good ssr to get

        warning brain may explode

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        • DjDemonDundefined
          DjDemonD
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          A solid state relay - a device to switch a large current using a small one. Used when you power your heatbed from mains power with a DC-AC SSR, or if you buy a DC-DC SSR from a second DC power supply. Usually they isolate the low current and high current side optically. A good idea if your print bed is larger than the usual 200x200mm as to achieve the desired 0.5W/cm2 requires a larger heater which draws more current than most controller boards can handle.

          They can handle low frequency PWM for more precise control of bed temperature.

          It is also possible to use a mechanical relay, but without PWM using bang bang mode.

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          • capundefined
            cap
            last edited by

            thanks for this info i must off edited my above statement as you replyed

            warning brain may explode

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            • capundefined
              cap
              last edited by

              ok so had a look at ssr WOW how many there a lost here
              can you recommend a good one with out killing my pocket
              are am i looking for a

              ssr 40a dc ??

              warning brain may explode

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              • iDeveloundefined
                iDevelo
                last edited by

                @cap:

                no im not whats a ssr

                edit

                ok i did say im no engineer but i do love this guy i think if you sent this guy a board asking him to do full review and setup blog it would help your sale to low tech peeps like me and boost your sales
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiEwNf1H_Tc
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiEwNf1H_Tc

                thanks for the help good job ive only got low hours with my prnter plugged in ill get this sorted with out going stupid money what would be a good ssr to get

                I think you sent Tom one not long ago didn't you Tony?

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                • capundefined
                  cap
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                  i wish i had money to give away m8 sorry not me but i have ask before

                  warning brain may explode

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                  • capundefined
                    cap
                    last edited by

                    would this do me
                    http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_30&products_id=30

                    warning brain may explode

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                    • Dougal1957undefined
                      Dougal1957
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                      @cap:

                      would this do me
                      http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_30&products_id=30

                      No it wont as that is for an AC bed think you need one for DC so look at

                      http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_30&products_id=288

                      Doug

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                      • capundefined
                        cap
                        last edited by

                        hi again thanks for your help
                        i am trying to find one local but i do not fancy my chances

                        also ran into this may help other so ill post it here
                        http://sublimelayers.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/how-to-choose-ssr-to-drive-your-heated.html

                        think ill have to pay more for postage than i will for the part lol

                        warning brain may explode

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                        • Dougal1957undefined
                          Dougal1957
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                          where are you?

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                          • capundefined
                            cap
                            last edited by

                            uk
                            cost £29.31 pound shipped

                            warning brain may explode

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                            • Dougal1957undefined
                              Dougal1957
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                              OK I think RS do some decent ones but not looked into it as I only ever use AC Heaters on My Printers so a bit of Valots drop is insignificant however at DC it is a major problem as you have found out?

                              Doug

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                              • capundefined
                                cap
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                                http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_30&products_id=288
                                well ive read a couple of poeple have ran into problems with 12v dc heaters (doh live and learn) and that the linked ssr above work well with just a heat sink
                                so my thinking is run a 32amp 400w psu via ssr to run my 12v 280w heat-bed leaving a big safety margin 40%
                                and then run my 25amp 300w psu to run my duetwifi board with all attached bits also leaving a large safety margin

                                im thinking ill let it run like this for a year then ill iver by better psu when funds arrive are recycle the psu into new projects

                                any safety tips would be gratefully received
                                are safer ways to achieve me goals

                                warning brain may explode

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  See the section on connecting a bed heater on the wiki. I included SSR recommendations in it.

                                  Printers with beds larger than 200mm square are usually run with 24V power, to keep the bed heater current to manageable proportions. For example, if you had a 24v 280W bed heater instead of 12V 280W, the current draw would be 11.7A which is within the rating of the Duet WiFi.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • capundefined
                                    cap
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                                    well its all ordered now and in the post so ill try ill move everything into the shed for a good long test run it can make big smokey mess at the bottom of the garden (worst case) and ill fit a big red switch in shed to kill all shed power
                                    and anther big red switch at back door

                                    warning brain may explode

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                                    • Dougal1957undefined
                                      Dougal1957
                                      last edited by

                                      The Single 32 amp PSU should be able to manage the whole lot to be fair sure DC will be along to give his advise soon enough.

                                      The Auberin ones should be fine mounted to just an Alloy plate I think I reckon you will need to sink approx 2 watts of heat away from it so not excessive Remember you can use the Heatbed output from the Duet to switch it on and off and the output of the PSU would have the O/P of the SSR In series with the Bed.

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                                      • capundefined
                                        cap
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                                        hi only me the ssr is in the post and i get how to wire the ssr and the power supply to the board but what i cart find is do i need to change anything in the config file for it to work

                                        warning brain may explode

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          You don't need to change anything in the config file to use an SSR to control the bed.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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