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    • byaziciundefined
      byazici
      last edited by

      Hello,

      First of all, let me define my setup:

      • Duet3D Maestro
      • 1x NEMA 23 Z motor
      • 2x External NEMA 23 motors (OMC stepper iss24 https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/download/ISS24.pdf)
      • Core XY setup

      The other items in my setup are irrelevant to my problem.

      I have the config file configured according to posts that I have read on the forum that have a similar setup to mine, which is T3.3:3.3:6:0, and it works up to a point and that point seems to be right around 25kHz for each motor. Any feed that I try to give above that results in lost steps.

      So, I hooked up the output from E3 port to an oscilloscope (Hameg HMO3004) to find out that when I cross the 25kHz boundary, the pulse lengths keep varying between 3.3us and 1.24us, which explains the lost steps as my drive does not accept anything lower than 2.5us but, what is interesting is the pulse-to-pulse time is calculated correct. So, when I increase the feed, lets say, to get a 33.3kHz motion, the pulse length and the gap in between the pulse is correctly set at 33.3kHz but, the pulse length is varrying between the set 3.3us to 1.24us, which baffles me.

      What could be causing this?

      Thank you.

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      • byaziciundefined
        byazici
        last edited by

        I have also uploaded a ss from Saleae Logic analyzer, you can see some of the pointers and the measurements that I took from the signal on the right side.
        0_1555951406244_logic.jpg

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          Which firmware version are you running?

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • byaziciundefined
            byazici
            last edited by

            Firmware is 2.02RC5(RTOS) (2018-11-28b1)

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              @byazici said in External drives limited at 25Khz:

              Firmware is 2.02RC5(RTOS) (2018-11-28b1)

              you should update to 2.02 at least. there was a bug that would impact long running prints.

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              • byaziciundefined
                byazici
                last edited by

                OK, so, I have upgraded to the latest 2.03beta3 (2019-03-25b6) firmware. The problem continues...

                Here, the signal is at 25kHz:

                0_1556008608949_SCR02.PNG

                Here the signal is at 27kHz, where you can see the 1.36us signal, which creates a problem:

                0_1556008646914_SCR03.PNG

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                • byaziciundefined
                  byazici
                  last edited by

                  Here is the config file:

                  ; Configuration file for Duet Maestro (firmware version 1.21)
                  ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                  ;
                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Sat Apr 13 2019 13:22:32 GMT+0300 (GMT+03:00)

                  ; General preferences
                  G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves

                  M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode

                  ; Network
                  M550 P"My Printer" ; Set machine name
                  M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; Enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                  M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                  M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                  M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                  ; Drives
                  M569 P0 S1 T3.3:3.3:6:0 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                  M569 P1 S1 T3.3:3.3:6:0 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                  M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                  M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                  M584 X5 Y6 Z2 E3 ; Apply custom drive mapping
                  M350 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                  M92 X100.00 Y100.00 Z1280.00 E420.00 ; Set steps per mm
                  M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 X90000.00 Y90000.00 Z3000.00 E1200.00 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  M906 X15.00 Y15.00 Z1500.00 E800.00 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                  ; Axis Limits
                  M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                  M208 X10000 Y10000 Z400 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                  ; Endstops
                  M574 X0 Y0 Z0 S0 ; Set active low and disabled endstops

                  ; Z-Probe
                  M558 P0 H0 F120 T18000 ; Disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                  M557 X8:216 Y8:316 S20 ; Define mesh grid

                  ; Heaters
                  M140 H-1 ; Disable heated bed
                  M305 P1 T100000 B4138 R2200 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1
                  M143 H1 S280 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                  ; Fans
                  M106 P0 S0 I0 F500 H T45 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                  M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                  ; Tools
                  M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                  ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled

                  ; Custom settings
                  M918 P1 ;initialize display
                  M564 H0

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                  • byaziciundefined
                    byazici
                    last edited by

                    Think I found it, correct me if I am wrong:

                    I changed M569 P0 to P5 and P1 to P6, this seems to have fixed the issue...will test

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators @byazici
                      last edited by

                      @byazici said in External drives limited at 25Khz:

                      Think I found it, correct me if I am wrong:

                      I changed M569 P0 to P5 and P1 to P6, this seems to have fixed the issue...will test

                      That's right, assuming you are using the first 2 sets of step/dir/enable signals on either the expansion connector or the expansion breakout board.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • byaziciundefined
                        byazici
                        last edited by

                        I guess thats because the reprap configurator has a problem, because I did select the correct board and the correct external motors 5-E2 and 6-E3 but, it still appoints P0 and P1 in the config file. I guess you might want to report that.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators @byazici
                          last edited by

                          @byazici said in External drives limited at 25Khz:

                          I guess thats because the reprap configurator has a problem, because I did select the correct board and the correct external motors 5-E2 and 6-E3 but, it still appoints P0 and P1 in the config file. I guess you might want to report that.

                          Thanks, we'll get that fixed.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • chrishammundefined
                            chrishamm administrators
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                            Thanks, it looks like the configtool was using logical instead of physical drives. It's fixed now.

                            Duet software engineer

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