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    • A Former User?
      A Former User
      last edited by

      wiki has lots of info https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_and_configuring_fans#Section_Using_12V_fans_when_VIN_is_24V

      i would prefer one of those options to what you suggest.

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      • PaulHewundefined
        PaulHew @A Former User
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        @bearer Thank you, i shall investigate.
        P.

        RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
        Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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        • A Former User?
          A Former User
          last edited by

          (enable pin may work, but the converters i have seen were with enable pins for input enable for power saving applications, you would need it to be an output enable for it to work well with speed control)

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          • PaulHewundefined
            PaulHew
            last edited by

            Some things I forgot to mention....
            Maestro board, 24v fans on all outputs.
            Fan 0 Part cooling
            Fan 1 Hotend cooling
            Fan 2 Case cooling.

            So if I read the wiki right, I am going to have to use Fan2 output for my part cooling fan. Not a prob I can mod cura.
            Remove the jumper, make a cable from jumper to Buck, out from buck into V_Fan. Then fan2 output feeds the part cooling fan.
            Bit of an issue if i need to reduce the speed..... Either way I do it, more investigating required. Only printing PLA so it is either on or off!!

            RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
            Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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            • PaulHewundefined
              PaulHew
              last edited by

              I will have to find a 5015 fan 24v from somewhere!!!

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              • Jacotheronundefined
                Jacotheron
                last edited by

                The main question to what option one should use, from the Wiki (1, 2 or 3), is others fans - do they use 24V or 12V.

                On my printer, I only have a single 24V fan, which is happy to be always on (thus running straight off my power supply). My other fans are 12V since they are easier to source. For this I run power from my power supply, to the buck converter, and the positive output of the buck converter into the Fan voltage header - thus I wire the fans up as normal and they work (getting their 12V).

                The other method (typically if you have some that need 24V and others that need 12V), is to have the Fan voltage header at V_in (24V fans are wired as normal), and the buck converter (still directly to the power supply) output for the 12V fan positive wires, and their ground to the mainboard - these boards make use of N-channel mosfets (digital switches), which simply means they are between the load and Ground, so the PWM capability is kept in this configuration.

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                • PaulHewundefined
                  PaulHew
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                  @bearer , @Jacotheron thank for your inputs
                  It takes a while for things to sink and for me to understand.

                  So wiring diagram if I have read the info correctly should look like this?0_1558258460300_IMG_20190519_103056.jpg
                  The box on the right is the Buck convertor!

                  Looks like I will get 2 buck convertors regulated to 12v output and 3 new 12v fans.
                  As others have said in other posts and this one, 12v fans are easier to get hold of.
                  I mentioned about speed control, I got my head round that also, it is controlled on the -ve side of the fan output.

                  If someone could check my wiring idea, i would appreciate.

                  TIA Paul

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                  • A Former User?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by

                    That should allow you to use the existing fan headers on the board with 12v yeah.

                    You should also be able to use the same 12v converter for both V_FAN inputs, unless your fans draw more current than the single converter can handle.

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                    • PaulHewundefined
                      PaulHew @A Former User
                      last edited by

                      @bearer Thanks for the sanity check, greatly appreciated.
                      Just need a decent 5015 blower fan!

                      RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                      Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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                      • dragonnundefined
                        dragonn @PaulHew
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                        @paulhew MF50151VX-A99

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                        • PaulHewundefined
                          PaulHew
                          last edited by

                          Thanks to everyone for their guidance, greatly appreciated.

                          Bought 2 x Pololu Item #2577 - S18V20F12 step downs from HobbyTronics and have installed one for the Filament cooling fan on port 2 on my Maestro, temporarily until I get to E3D to swap a 24v fan to a 12v.
                          I was a bit nervous turning it all back on after making the changes, but no smoke!

                          RailCore II - Duet Mini + 1LC, Voron V0.1 - Duet Mini
                          Voron 2.4 disassembled..... Waiting for the RailCore Mini....

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