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    Smart effector for delta printers
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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
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      Mounting the hot end higher gives you a little extra build height. Also if you don't manage to eliminate effector tilt then it may reduce the resulting print distortion.

      We considered whether we could mount the bottom of the heatsink to the effector instead of the top, but we couldn't find a practical arrangement.

      The PCBs for the next version of the effector have arrived. This version has the top of the heatsink going through the effector, so the distance from the nozzle to the effector is reduced somewhat.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • Dougal1957undefined
        Dougal1957
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        David

        Could you share a drawing of the top of the heatsink and mounting to the effector I need to get Lykle on board to design an adaptor so that a Nimble extruder can be mounted to it?

        Doug

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        • jannisjundefined
          jannisj
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          Hey guys!

          Any updates on this?
          I'm just waiting to order πŸ™‚

          -Jannis

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          • abbott_mundefined
            abbott_m
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            Quite interested in this as well. Wound up machining a similar setup out of AL but without the electronics. Works rather nicely with the rod ends absolutely parallel.

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              I've published the preliminary fitting instructions at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Smart_effector_and_carriage_adapters_for_delta_printer. I also added some photos, including this one:

              This is our second prototype. The electronics is working even better than in the first prototype and we have been able to increase the sensitivity, so that the probing force is lower.

              The combination of magnetic joints and two connectors (one for signal connections and the other for power connections) makes it very easy to remove the effector - the hardest part is removing the Bowden tube and filament from the hot end.

              The main thing we need now is for E3D to finalise their new heatsink design. We may also make the effector a little larger to make the underside less cramped, which would increase the rod separation from the current 55mm to 60 or 65mm. Do any potential users have strong views on this?

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • abbott_mundefined
                abbott_m
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                I machined mine at 55 and about the only thing I noted is having to be a bit more careful about anything mounted to the vertical tower and staying clear of the mounts (how. Do I know this,..it wasn't pretty). Larger seems like a good notion though.

                Think a larger size would be useful if this got extended to two hot ends in the future.

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                • A Former User?
                  A Former User
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                  Im in for a full set as soon as they become available.

                  Thinking out loud on the wider spacing : would there be any noticeable deflection with the wider rod separation ?

                  And personally I would be modifying my Prometheus hotend to fit the effector, therefore could i ask for a picture of the modified e3d hotend out of the effector to see whats going on.

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                  • davidbatesundefined
                    davidbates
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                    Just wanted to stop in and say this is looking fabulous. I've been looking for a solution to house multiple tool heads with quick disconnects and this looks perfect for that.

                    A couple of features I'd really like to see:
                    1. A single connector on the back that can be universal for all the different tool heads (hot end, laser, cnc, touch probe, etc)
                    2. That single connector is a magnet style both for safety and for a quick change.
                    3. I'd like for the rods to carry current either for the connections needed (there are 6 connectors) or for fault-tolerant break detection.
                    4. a purple color from osh?

                    Again really good work and thanks for sharing. If there's a beta or early product tester program sign me up.

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                    • njjn2020undefined
                      njjn2020
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                      @davidbates:

                      Just wanted to stop in and say this is looking fabulous. I've been looking for a solution to house multiple tool heads with quick disconnects and this looks perfect for that.

                      A couple of features I'd really like to see:
                      1. A single connector on the back that can be universal for all the different tool heads (hot end, laser, cnc, touch probe, etc)
                      2. That single connector is a magnet style both for safety and for a quick change.
                      3. I'd like for the rods to carry current either for the connections needed (there are 6 connectors) or for fault-tolerant break detection.
                      4. a purple color from osh?

                      Again really good work and thanks for sharing. If there's a beta or early product tester program sign me up.

                      i vote for magnetic quick change too. as for connector - if i change tool, how than board will differentiate which tool is connected?
                      if it does then firmware may automatically adapt for the tool.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        The PCB effector uses two connectors, one for signal wires and one for power wires. This is to reduce the risk of mis-wiring causing a short. A magnetic connector might work for the signal wires, but I doubt that it could be used for the power wires.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                        • elmoretundefined
                          elmoret
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                          @dc42:

                          A magnetic connector might work for the signal wires, but I doubt that it could be used for the power wires.

                          Apple shoves 85w through Magsafe! πŸ˜„

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                          • A Former User?
                            A Former User
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                            @elmoret:

                            Apple shoves 85w through Magsafe! πŸ˜„

                            Have you seen the repair percentage on apple products power circuit ? a prime example of what NOT to do…......

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                            • jrledererundefined
                              jrlederer
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                              So the big question is when to expect availability on this seemingly very cool and precise product development?

                              –

                              "Insanity is doing the same thing over again, yet expecting different results..." --Albert Einstein

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                              • saffiundefined
                                saffi
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                                @jrlederer:

                                So the big question is when to expect availability on this seemingly very cool and precise product development?

                                Once you make a defined scheduled, circumstances beyond your control will always delay it three to six months!

                                Prusa i3 Style Printer with Duet WiFi, E3D Volcano, Bondtech BMG

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                                • jrledererundefined
                                  jrlederer
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                                  Haha good ol' Murphy hard at work…

                                  –

                                  "Insanity is doing the same thing over again, yet expecting different results..." --Albert Einstein

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                                  • inachisiojexusundefined
                                    inachisiojexus
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm also very interested in this as I may need to replace the somewhat bulky aluminum effector on my TEVO delta in order to fit a DyzEnd-X hotend. In the meantime I'm going for a hacky solution. πŸ™‚

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators
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                                      Last week we agreed the new heatsink design with E3D. So production will start soon.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • A Former User?
                                        A Former User
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                                        Pre order any time soon?

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                                        • Whitewolfundefined
                                          Whitewolf
                                          last edited by

                                          @dc42:

                                          The PCB effector uses two connectors, one for signal wires and one for power wires. This is to reduce the risk of mis-wiring causing a short. A magnetic connector might work for the signal wires, but I doubt that it could be used for the power wires.

                                          still requires wire but here is an example of magnetic quick change tools with what appears to be USB for quick disconnect.

                                          http://flux3dp.com

                                          Exploring the universe wherever the tech blows

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                                          • Whitewolfundefined
                                            Whitewolf
                                            last edited by

                                            Phoenix Contact also makes some hybrid quick connect plugs and cables that run power and signal through a single cable

                                            Exploring the universe wherever the tech blows

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