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    • Syko_Symaticundefined
      Syko_Symatic
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      After so tweaking and testing it appears that the fans are not PWM capable? Does anyone have a link to 3010 24v fans that definitely are PWM capable?

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      • dc42undefined
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        I have a 24V E3D 30mm fan arriving tomorrow which I will test with PWM. I think it may be thinner than 10mm. I have some 4010 fans that work well with PWM which came from eBay UK supplier wedo3dprinting. I also have a 50mm 24V blower fan from RS that I planned to use as a print cooling fan, but it doesn't work with PWM at all.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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        • Syko_Symaticundefined
          Syko_Symatic
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          My fans are from E3D as well. Hopefully they will work for you! Then I will know it's something I have done. Though the other days I tested worked fine.

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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman
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            For additional info. I use a couple of 30mm 12v print cooling fans that I run through a 24 to 12v dc converter and which I control using PWM, but had to drop the frequency right down to 10 Hz.

            Ian
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            • Sniffleundefined
              Sniffle
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              I searched mouser and digikey without any success for a 30x30x10mm fan @ 24v and PWM capable, you have to look at the datasheet usually to see if they are pwm capable and sometimes decipher the manufacturer part number

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              • Syko_Symaticundefined
                Syko_Symatic
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                @Sniffle:

                I searched mouser and digikey without any success for a 30x30x10mm fan @ 24v and PWM capable, you have to look at the datasheet usually to see if they are pwm capable and sometimes decipher the manufacturer part number

                Thanks Sniffle. I have ordered a few from MakersHut and Ebay. So we shall see. I will check out digikey as well.

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                • dc42undefined
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                  I tried my 24V 30mm fan from E3D. It needs very low PWM frequencies:

                  12Hz works down to S0.9
                  10Hz works down to 0.8
                  8Hz works down to 0.6
                  5Hz works down to 0.5

                  Even at S0.999 it is very much quieter than at full speed. My guess is that it after power is applied, the brushless controller waits for around 80ms before it runs the motor.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                  • Syko_Symaticundefined
                    Syko_Symatic
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                    Odd? I tried F10 but it still didn't start? I will test it again. On the plus side my eBay fans worked right out of the packet.

                    So is there a way to set the max speed of the hotel t end fan to make it quieter? If it's much quieter at S0.999 then it seems like the logical thing to do?

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                    • elmoretundefined
                      elmoret
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                      If it's is quieter, it is pushing less air. E3D hotends need every bit of that 4CFM, at least with PLA.

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                      • dc42undefined
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                        I just tested this 30mm 24V fan http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191458206299/. It works with PWM at the default frequency, right down to S0.1. But I can feel that at full PWM it is pushing less air than the E3D fan.

                        I used to have a fan shroud on my E3D hot end that took a 40mm fan, and I may return to that approach in future if the fan noise annoys me too much.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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