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    • Jayanundefined
      Jayan
      last edited by

      My x-axis movement is weird here. The limit of the X-axis is 600mm but when I Home the axis and then move the x-axis, it moves weirdly. It moves 5mm when given a command to move 10mm and also it never reaches the limit as 600mm is reached in the middle of the printer.

      The zero of x or home of the x-axis is located at the top left corner of the printer.

      Please suggest a solution.

      Jayan K. Duggal | Robotics Design Engineer
      GEM Technologies, Inc. | 2033 Castaic Lane | Knoxville, TN 37932
      Direct: 865.770.4207 | Main: 560.9434 ext. 169 | jduggal@gemtechnologiesinc.com

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      • Danalundefined
        Danal
        last edited by

        Sounds like steps/mm is incorrect, and/or microsteps.

        Delta / Kossel printer fanatic

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        • Jayanundefined
          Jayan
          last edited by

          Here is the image for reference I had set X max 600mm & Y max 600, printer as Cartesian. All axes move in right manner except X-axis as only this move half of the printer distance than other axes. I manually move this to 600mm using dashboard but it actually moves only 300mm. Please suggest changes.
          X_axis_prob_!.PNG

          I have changed the Firmware version to 3.0 as I am working on it now. X_axis_prob_2.PNG

          Jayan K. Duggal | Robotics Design Engineer
          GEM Technologies, Inc. | 2033 Castaic Lane | Knoxville, TN 37932
          Direct: 865.770.4207 | Main: 560.9434 ext. 169 | jduggal@gemtechnologiesinc.com

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Was it previously 100 steps per mm on the X and it's only now that you've switched to RRF3 that it's no longer accurate?

            Post your config.g and homing files.

            Here is the formula for determining your steps per mm on a belted X Y axis

            xy_steps_per_mm = (motor_steps_per_rev ∗ driver_microstep) / (belt_pitch ∗ pulley_number_of_teeth)

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • Jayanundefined
              Jayan
              last edited by

              tpre0.g tpost0.g tfree0.g stop.g sleep.g retractprobe.g resurrect-prologue.g resume.g rehome.g pause.g homez.g homey.g homex.g homeall.g deployprobe.g config.json config.g cancel.g bed.g Yes, it was 100 steps per mm previously. Even now after version change. But it never traveled 600mm on X-axis. I tried switching the X and Y motors connections. But then, both axes X and Y then travel half the distance (i.e 300 mm instead of 600mm).

              My printer build size is 600mm x 600mm x 600mm, it is MODIX Big60.

              I already calculated with the formula but the problem is there are different GT2 pulleys with different teeth no.s, for an instance, in X-axis NEMA23 has a mounted GT2 16 teeth pulley driving a GT2 40 teeth (double width) pulley which further is coaxial with a GT2 20 teeth pulley driving the belt of the X-axis.

              Y-axis uses a GT2 16 teeth to GT2 20 teeth to drive a belt.

              I am attaching the config.g file and homing files. [0_1589565222694_Big60-Configuration (1).zip](Uploading 100%)

              Also a screenshot of calculations.

              Jayan K. Duggal | Robotics Design Engineer
              GEM Technologies, Inc. | 2033 Castaic Lane | Knoxville, TN 37932
              Direct: 865.770.4207 | Main: 560.9434 ext. 169 | jduggal@gemtechnologiesinc.com

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              • Jayanundefined
                Jayan
                last edited by

                Here are the screenshots.
                X_axis_prob_5.png X_axis_prob_4.PNG X_axis_prob_3.PNG

                Jayan K. Duggal | Robotics Design Engineer
                GEM Technologies, Inc. | 2033 Castaic Lane | Knoxville, TN 37932
                Direct: 865.770.4207 | Main: 560.9434 ext. 169 | jduggal@gemtechnologiesinc.com

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                • Jayanundefined
                  Jayan
                  last edited by

                  I tried changing steps to the following values:

                  40, 60, 80, 120 but nothing worked for X-axis. In the end, it just disturbed my other axes movements too.

                  Jayan K. Duggal | Robotics Design Engineer
                  GEM Technologies, Inc. | 2033 Castaic Lane | Knoxville, TN 37932
                  Direct: 865.770.4207 | Main: 560.9434 ext. 169 | jduggal@gemtechnologiesinc.com

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                  • Jayanundefined
                    Jayan
                    last edited by

                    Will changing the limit of X to 1200mm work, I tried it does cover the whole bed but this might affect my 3d prints and their Gcodes.

                    Please suggest a fix.

                    Jayan K. Duggal | Robotics Design Engineer
                    GEM Technologies, Inc. | 2033 Castaic Lane | Knoxville, TN 37932
                    Direct: 865.770.4207 | Main: 560.9434 ext. 169 | jduggal@gemtechnologiesinc.com

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @Jayan
                      last edited by

                      @Jayan said in Incorrect X axis movement:

                      it is MODIX Big60.

                      Are you sure this printer is cartesian? From some googling it would appear that it is actually CoreXY.

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      • Jayanundefined
                        Jayan
                        last edited by

                        This configuration file is forwarded by the printer company. I guess they had worked this through with Duet, I am assuming this here.

                        I will give this a try and change it to core XY and will let you know soon.

                        Jayan K. Duggal | Robotics Design Engineer
                        GEM Technologies, Inc. | 2033 Castaic Lane | Knoxville, TN 37932
                        Direct: 865.770.4207 | Main: 560.9434 ext. 169 | jduggal@gemtechnologiesinc.com

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                        • Jayanundefined
                          Jayan
                          last edited by

                          It is still not working, I changed the rep rap config files. Made an entirely new with 3.0 firmware version and CoreXY geometry for the Modix Big-60 printer.

                          Jayan K. Duggal | Robotics Design Engineer
                          GEM Technologies, Inc. | 2033 Castaic Lane | Knoxville, TN 37932
                          Direct: 865.770.4207 | Main: 560.9434 ext. 169 | jduggal@gemtechnologiesinc.com

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                          • deckingmanundefined
                            deckingman
                            last edited by deckingman

                            @Jayan - Long shot here.

                            If the motor was actually a 0.9 degree motor with 400 steps per rev, but the steps per mm were set for a 1.8 degree motor @ 200 steps per rev, then commanding the axis to move 600mm would result in an actual move of 300mm (which is what you said happens).

                            If there isn't anything marked on the motor or you otherwise don't know the spec, mark the pulley and see if it rotates one full revolution when commanded. i.e. If it's a 1.8 degree motor then one full revolution will be (200x16=) 3200 (micro) steps. So using 100 steps per mm and 16X micro stepping, then moving the X axis by 32mm should give 1 full revolution. If you only get 1/2 a revolution, then you know it;s a 0.9 degree motor and you need to double the steps per mm value.

                            The easiest way to move X by 32 mm would be to send G91 (to set relative positioning) followed by G1 X32.

                            Edit - check my maths - I wrote that in a hurry

                            Ian
                            https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                            https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Can you post a photo of the printers X and Y axis? It should be pretty easy to identify what kinematic it is actually using.

                              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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