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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @campeancalin
      last edited by fcwilt

      @campeancalin said in trouble with homing the x and y axes on a core xy printer.:

      @fcwilt do these commands work if the version of the firmware is 2.03?

      Yes they do.


      But a set of files generated for v3 firmware will not work with v2 firmware without some changes.

      I would go ahead and update the firmware to v3.

      First update using Duet2and3Firmware-3.0.zip.

      When asked allow it to update.

      Then update using Duet2and3Firmware-3.1.1.zip

      When asked allow it to update.

      You can upload each ZIP file on the System page.

      Duet System Page.jpg

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Once you update to 3.1.1 your current config has a better chance of working.

        You should probably redo the motor direction tests for corexy after you update.

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCoreXYPrinter#Section_Testing_motor_movement

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        • campeancalinundefined
          campeancalin
          last edited by

          Thank you kindly. I was not aware of these differences

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            Since you're starting from scratch it doesn't much matter, but here are the details.

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • campeancalinundefined
              campeancalin
              last edited by Phaedrux

              Hello guys,
              Thank you again for the heads up regarding the differencies between the machine config and the firmware that was on the board.
              Today I went on and upgraded the firmware on the board, and reuploaded the machine config. At a first glance, the xy gantry seems to move in the right direction ; I still cant perform the homing on them. I also moved the z axis, on which I have 2 in series motors ( ZA and ZB are being used to control them), and while the z axis is performing the required movement , the E0 extruder motor is also moving.
              Bellow you can see the M122 report:

              M122
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.1.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
              Board ID: 08DGM-917NK-F23T0-6JKFG-3S46S-1HAJF
              Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (11 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 27980
              Dynamic ram: 94972 of which 20 recycled
              Exception stack ram used: 408
              Never used ram: 7692
              Tasks: NETWORK(ready,292) HEAT(blocked,1224) DUEX(suspended,160) MAIN(running,1824) IDLE(ready,80)
              Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 00:10:43 ago, cause: software
              Last software reset at 2020-10-06 17:51, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 7700 bytes (slot 1)
              Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task MAIN
              Error status: 0
              MCU temperature: min 32.7, current 33.3, max 34.0
              Supply voltage: min 23.8, current 24.0, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max 0/260
              Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max 0/51
              Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Driver 9: standstill, SG min/max not available
              Date/time: 2020-10-06 18:02:09
              Cache data hit count 1128396488
              Slowest loop: 6.69ms; fastest: 0.12ms
              I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
              === Storage ===
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
              SD card longest read time 3.2ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
              === Move ===
              Hiccups: 0(0), FreeDm: 169, MinFreeDm: 168, MaxWait: 314759ms
              Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
              === MainDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 2, completed moves: 2, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: -1
              === AuxDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0  CDDA state: -1
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
              === GCodes ===
              Segments left: 0
              Movement lock held by null
              HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
              Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              File is idle in state(s) 0
              USB is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux is idle in state(s) 0
              Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue is idle in state(s) 0
              Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              Code queue is empty.
              === Network ===
              Slowest loop: 39.91ms; fastest: 0.00ms
              Responder states: HTTP(2) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
              HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
              - WiFi -
              Network state is active
              WiFi module is connected to access point 
              Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
              WiFi firmware version 1.23
              WiFi MAC address ec:fa:bc:02:17:e5
              WiFi Vcc 3.42, reset reason Unknown
              WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 25336
              WiFi IP address 192.168.0.100
              WiFi signal strength -65dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
              Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
              === DueX ===
              Read count 1, 0.09 reads/min
              

              Also, the config file is detailed bellow . There might be several issues in it , but as a first step I need to take care of the movements and the homing issues.

              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Oct 05 2020 11:50:08 GMT+0300 (Eastern European Summer Time)
              
              ; General preferences
              G90                                                ; send absolute coordinates...
              M83                                                ; ...but relative extruder moves
              M550 P"Oscar"                                      ; set printer name
              M669 K1                                            ; select CoreXY mode
              
              ; Network
              M551 P""                                           ; set password
              M552 S1                                            ; enable network
              M586 P0 S1                                         ; enable HTTP
              M586 P1 S1                                         ; enable FTP
              M586 P2 S0                                         ; disable Telnet
              
              ; Drives
              M584 X1 Y0 Z2:3 E4:5                               ; set drive mapping; INIT:X=0; Y=1; Z2;E3:4
              M569 P0 S0                                         ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
              M569 P1 S0                                         ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
              M569 P2 S1                                         ; physical drive 2 goes FORWARDS
              M569 P3 S1                                         ; physical drive 3 goes FORWARDS
              M569 P4 S0                                         ; physical drive 4 goes backwards
              M569 P5 S0                                         ; physical drive 5 goes backwards
              
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16:16 I1                     	   ; configure microstepping with interpolation ; INIT- M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1
              M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z3200.00:3200.00 E420.00:420.00        ; set steps per mm
              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00:12.00 E120.00:120.00           ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00:180.00 E1200.00:1200.00     ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00:20.00 E250.00:250.00           ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X1400 Y1400 Z1200:1200 E800:800 I80                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 S30                                                    ; Set idle timeout
              
              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                   ; set axis minima
              M208 X500 Y500 Z500 S0                             ; set axis maxima
              
              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                                ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
              M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                                ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
              M574 Z1 S2                                         ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
              
              ; Z-Probe
              M950 S0 C"duex.e5heat"                             ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
              M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000                ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
              G31 P500 X10 Y10 Z3.5                              ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
              M557 X15:470 Y15:470 S20                           ; define mesh grid
              
              ; Heaters
              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138     ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
              M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                              ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
              M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
              M140 H0                                            ; map heated bed to heater 0
              M143 H0 S120                                       ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
              M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138      ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
              M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                               ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
              M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
              M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138      ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin e1temp
              M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2                               ; create nozzle heater output on e1heat and map it to sensor 2
              M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                   ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
              
              ; Fans
              M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                               ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
              M106 P0 S1 H-1                                     ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                               ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
              M106 P1 S1 H-1                                     ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
              
              ; Tools
              M563 P0 S"Tool 1" D0 H1 F0                         ; define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
              M563 P1 S"Tool 2" D1 H2 F0                         ; define tool 1
              G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                    ; set tool 1 axis offsets
              G10 P1 R0 S0                                       ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
              
              ; Custom settings are not defined
              
              ; Miscellaneous
              M575 P1 S1 B57600                                  ; enable support for PanelDue
              M501                                               ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
              M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
              

              Edit: formatting

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                @campeancalin said in trouble with homing the x and y axes on a core xy printer.:

                which I have 2 in series motors ( ZA and ZB are being used to control them),

                this does not match your config
                M584 X1 Y0 Z2:3 E4:5 ; set drive mapping; INIT:X=0; Y=1; Z2;E3:4

                Za and Zb are both driver 2

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                • campeancalinundefined
                  campeancalin @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Veti Thank you

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                  • campeancalinundefined
                    campeancalin
                    last edited by

                    The motors work fine, I still cant home the x and y

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      can you describe in detail what happens when you press homex

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                      • campeancalinundefined
                        campeancalin @Veti
                        last edited by

                        @Veti both motors receive current but the gantry does not move.

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                        • campeancalinundefined
                          campeancalin
                          last edited by

                          the x motor has an atempt to make a move , but to no avail.

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @campeancalin
                            last edited by

                            @campeancalin
                            does it work with no belts?

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                            • campeancalinundefined
                              campeancalin @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti no, there's an atempt to start but it suddenly stops

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by Phaedrux

                                M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16:16 I1                     	   ; configure microstepping with interpolation ; INIT- M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1
                                M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z3200.00:3200.00 E420.00:420.00        ; set steps per mm
                                M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00:12.00 E120.00:120.00           ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00:180.00 E1200.00:1200.00     ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00:20.00 E250.00:250.00           ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                M906 X1400 Y1400 Z1200:1200 E800:800 I80                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                M84 S30 
                                

                                Everywhere that has two Z axis values should be reduced to a single value. You only have a single Z axis (even if it were split between multiple drivers) and the values for each motor would need to be the same, so there is no need for two values for Z. It shouldn't be a problem, but I suggest cleaning it up.

                                Z16:16 would become just Z16 for example.

                                So the X motor isn't moving when you press home all at all, or is it moving a few mm?
                                Does it move if you do the corexy motor movement tests?

                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCoreXYPrinter#Section_Testing_motor_movement

                                Also test that your endstops are working correctly. You can check their status by sending M119, check them when you trigger the switch by hand as well as untriggered.

                                And, finally once you have movement, just to confirm you are using a right hand coordinate system with 0,0 in the front left corner and X+ moves to the right, X- to the left, Y+ to the back, Y- to the front.

                                dbot axis.png Cartesian-coordinate-system.png Bed Area.png

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                • campeancalinundefined
                                  campeancalin
                                  last edited by

                                  @Phaedrux said in trouble with homing the x and y axes on a core xy printer.:

                                  So the X motor isn't moving when you press home all at all, or is it moving a few mm?
                                  Does it move if you do the corexy motor movement tests?

                                  @Phaedrux, when I call for x or y homing command , the z axis prepares by lifting for 5 mm, but as far as the A and B motors, little to no movement at all ; the pulleys on the motors fell stiff as if the motors are trying to move . When I perform the movement tests they move the right direction. Only the home commands do not function

                                  ; homeall.g
                                  ; called to home all axes
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Oct 05 2020 11:50:09 GMT+0300 (Eastern European Summer Time)
                                  M98 P"homex.g"
                                  M98 P"homey.g"
                                  M98 P"homez.g"

                                  ; homex.g
                                  ; called to home the X axis
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Oct 05 2020 11:50:09 GMT+0300 (Eastern European Summer Time)
                                  G91 ; relative positioning
                                  G1 H2 Z5 F200 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                  G1 H1 X-505 F1800 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                  G1 X5 F600 ; go back a few mm
                                  G1 H1 X-5 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                  G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
                                  G90 ; absolute positioning

                                  ; homey.g
                                  ; called to home the Y axis
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Oct 05 2020 11:50:09 GMT+0300 (Eastern European Summer Time)
                                  G91 ; relative positioning
                                  G1 H2 Z5 F200 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                  G1 H1 Y-505 F1800 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
                                  G1 Y5 F600 ; go back a few mm
                                  G1 H1 Y-5 F360 ; move slowly to Y axis endstop once more (second pass)
                                  G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
                                  G90 ; absolute positioning

                                  ; homez.g
                                  ; called to home the Z axis
                                  ;
                                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Mon Oct 05 2020 11:50:09 GMT+0300 (Eastern European Summer Time)
                                  G91 ; relative positioning
                                  G1 H2 Z5 F800 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                  G90 ; absolute positioning
                                  G1 X15 Y15 F2400 ; go to first probe point
                                  G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                                  ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                                  G91 ; relative positioning
                                  G1 Z2 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                  G90 ; absolute positioning

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @campeancalin
                                    last edited by

                                    @campeancalin said in trouble with homing the x and y axes on a core xy printer.:

                                    When I perform the movement tests they move the right direction.

                                    At least that tells us that the motors are working and corexy is setup correctly.

                                    @campeancalin said in trouble with homing the x and y axes on a core xy printer.:

                                    Only the home commands do not function

                                    Ok, please test the endstop switches as I described.

                                    Move the print head into the center of the bed so that it's away from the endstops. It almost sounds like your endstop switches are misconfigured and showing as triggered when they are not.

                                    @campeancalin said in trouble with homing the x and y axes on a core xy printer.:

                                    little to no movement at all

                                    How much exactly? none, or some? The homing macros have a move to the endstop switch, and then a backoff movement. IF the switches are misconfigured and show as triggered when they are not, you wont get any movement on the first homing move, but the back off movement should still work if the directions are correct.

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                    • campeancalinundefined
                                      campeancalin
                                      last edited by

                                      I performed a test by homing the y axis while I had the switch lever pressed, and the motors started moving . I think the switches are misconfigured.

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti @campeancalin
                                        last edited by

                                        after pressing home x it should have shown that x was homed in the ui.

                                        change to this

                                        M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop

                                        M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop

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                                        • campeancalinundefined
                                          campeancalin
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes. The "!" marked the spot. Thank you.

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                                          • campeancalinundefined
                                            campeancalin @Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @Veti same thing for the Z axis?

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