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Is it possible to home both axis simultaneously on a corexy?

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    Turbo
    last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 01:04

    Title says all. cant find much info on the subject, and was curious to see if this is possible with a corexy kinematic system.

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      A Former User
      last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 01:06

      Afaik its been discussed a few times here; my understanding is you can until one axis is homed, then you need to do a second move to home the other one. With conditional g-code you could make that an intelligent thing now I guess.

      (You'll probably find more details from actual corexy wizards if you search the forum)

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        Turbo @A Former User
        last edited by Turbo 10 Dec 2020, 01:11 12 Oct 2020, 01:11

        @bearer im not too familiar with conditional gcode, but ill check it out.
        I figured the logic would go something like:

        Home both axis by moving one motor in a diagonal direction, then proceed to next line
        if (x endstop is reached before y endstop)
        rotate both motors in direction "A" to finish homing the second axis
        else if (y endstop is reached before x endstop)
        rotate both motors in direction "B" to finish homing the second axis

        if that makes any sense. hopefully

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          Turbo
          last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 01:15

          correct me if im wrong, but it seems i'll have to upgrade the rig to rrf3.0

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            A Former User @Turbo
            last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 01:17

            @Turbo said in Is it possible to home both axis simultaneously on a corexy?:

            correct me if im wrong, but it seems i'll have to upgrade the rig to rrf3.0

            yes and no; for conditional code you'll need rrf3.0.

            but you could also home both axis followed by each axis as an individual move? the one that homed first might just skip the move?

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 03:05

              Normally it's done like this:

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCoreXYPrinter#Section_homeall_g_file

              G91 ; relative mode
              G1 H1 X-240 Y-240 F3000 ; coarse home X or Y
              G1 H1 X-240 ; coarse home X
              G1 H1 Y-240 ; coarse home Y
              G1 X4 Y4 F600 ; move away from the endstops
              G1 H1 X-10 ; fine home X
              G1 H1 Y-10 ; fine home Y
              ''' Z homing section follows'''

              The first line with X and Y moves will go until either endstop is hit, then the single X and Y homing moves will proceed until both endstops are hit (one of them would already be hit) then back off and home each axis individually.

              I guess you could get fancy with conditional, but I don't see the benefit.

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                Turbo @Phaedrux
                last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 03:11

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                  Turbo @Phaedrux
                  last edited by Turbo 10 Dec 2020, 03:23 12 Oct 2020, 03:22

                  @Phaedrux okay so it works kinda. the issue arises when its already close to its home position. for some reason, it goes nuts. it also tries to move when already in the home position with both limit switches actuated. investigating...

                  ;-----Simultaneous X&Y Home-------------------------------------
                  M913 X70 Y70 ; reduce motor current to 70% to prevent belts slipping
                  G91 ; use relative positioning
                  M566 X200 Y200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M201 X250 Y250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  G1 H1 X-300 Y300 F3000 ; coarse home X or Y
                  G1 H1 X-300 ; coarse home X
                  G1 H1 Y300 ; coarse home Y
                  G1 X4 Y-4 F600 ; move away from the endstops
                  G1 H1 X-10 ; fine home X
                  G1 H1 Y10 ; fine home Y
                  G90 ; Back to absolute positioning
                  M400 ; make sure everything has stopped before we reset the motor currents
                  M913 X100 Y100 ; motor currents back to normal
                  M574 X2 S1 ; set endstops back to normal
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                    Turbo @Phaedrux
                    last edited by Turbo 10 Dec 2020, 03:33 12 Oct 2020, 03:33

                    @Phaedrux to add detail to the issue, when close to its original home position, homing it again proves an issue. when executing the file, the y axis homes without movement from the x axis, and then it tries to go super far left for some reason, rather than to the middle of the build volume to z probe, which is right of the home position.

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 04:21

                      You may want to add another small back off move to disengage the endstop switch after it's been fine homed.

                      Is that your full homeall?

                      Can you post your full config.g too?

                      @Turbo said in Is it possible to home both axis simultaneously on a corexy?:

                      M574 X2 S1 ; set endstops back to normal

                      What does this mean? When was it changed to not normal?

                      Just to check, is 0,0 the front left corner? +x to the right, +y to the back?

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        Turbo @Phaedrux
                        last edited by Turbo 10 Dec 2020, 04:27 12 Oct 2020, 04:27

                        @Phaedrux that line is leftover from previous config. copy paste and me not paying attention. you are correct on 0,0 position

                        this is the rest of the code after homing x and y

                        ;--blah blah blah home x and y. rest of code below
                        ;-----Home Z Axis------
                        G91 ; relative positioning
                        G1 Z5 F7200 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                        G90 ; absolute positioning
                        G1 X141 Y65.5 F7200 ; go to first probe point
                        G30 ; home Z by probing the bed
                        ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                        G91 ; relative positioning
                        G1 Z5 F120 S2 ; lift Z relative to current position
                        G90 ; absolute positioning
                        ;------Return to right Rear Corner------
                        ;G1 X5 Y65.5 F7200 ; move to left
                        G1 X5 Y180 F7200 ; move to home corner
                        M566 X1200 Y1200 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                        M201 X1500 Y1500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
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