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    • Thomas_Stagsforgeundefined
      Thomas_Stagsforge @Veti
      last edited by

      @Veti
      Hi, I don't see any thermocouple. When I bought the machine, there was some missing part...maybe they remove it before but not sure

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      • Thomas_Stagsforgeundefined
        Thomas_Stagsforge @Phaedrux
        last edited by Thomas_Stagsforge

        @Phaedrux
        Hi,
        Here some pictures :

        IMG_20201103_125123__01.jpg

        IMG_20201103_125116__01.jpg

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          according to this

          https://github.com/Raise3D/Marlin-Raise3D-N-Series/blob/master/Marlin/Configuration.h

          the Hotend is a thermocouple

          the Bed is a
          // 8 is 100k 0603 SMD Vishay NTCS0603E3104FXT (4.7k pullup)

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          • Thomas_Stagsforgeundefined
            Thomas_Stagsforge @Veti
            last edited by Thomas_Stagsforge

            @Veti
            Good, thanks for the information, good idea to check on Marlin. So we can see the sensor on the picture n°2.
            I just measure 10kOhm. Don't why I got a 100kOhm when I first checked...But according to the spec i should read 100 000ohm... I'm gonna do futher research. Thanks for your help.

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @Thomas_Stagsforge
              last edited by Veti

              @Thomas_Stagsforge said in Raise3D Heated Bed thermistor and Duet2Wifi:

              Don't why I got a 100kOhm when I first checked

              because thats the resistance at room temperature of the
              SMD Vishay NTCS0603E3104FXT
              https://www.vishay.com/docs/29056/ntcs0603e3t.pdf

              ...But according to the spec i should read 100 000ohm

              100000ohm = 100kOhm

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              • Thomas_Stagsforgeundefined
                Thomas_Stagsforge @Veti
                last edited by

                @Veti
                Thanks, Yeah you right but now when I measure it, I got 10kohm... Anyway, I'm gonna plug it back and check on WebControle the value.

                Are we agree that this type of thermistor is compatible with Duet2Wifi ?

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti @Thomas_Stagsforge
                  last edited by

                  @Thomas_Stagsforge

                  the thermistor on its own would be supported.

                  i am not sure about the wiring and why they included a 5v line.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by Phaedrux

                    Doing another search on the Raise3d forums found someone doing a conversion of the N2 to Duet wifi and they say the thermocouple isn't compatible and they attach a new thermistor. But they don't say why or what about it isn't compatible. Using a thermocouple would require a thermocouple daughterboard, so maybe that's what they mean. The 5V line is also confusing. So to even try it you'd need to buy that daughterboard, which will be more expensive than just getting a standard NTC100K 3950 thermistor or PT1000 sensor that doesn't need any additional board.

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                    • curlypaulundefined
                      curlypaul
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                      Sorry to hijack, but if you've gone that far, how about re-doing the bed completely ?

                      After struggling with our N2 Printers, I changed the bed at the same time (as fitting a duet wifi and piezo for z probing) to a machined C250 bed into which i put standard glass into, and heated with a mains powered pad

                      The stock bed is woeful at best anyway

                      IMG_20201103_162832.jpg
                      IMG_20201103_162839.jpg

                      Has transformed it into a pretty good printer now

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                      • Thomas_Stagsforgeundefined
                        Thomas_Stagsforge @curlypaul
                        last edited by

                        @curlypaul

                        Hi,

                        Thanks for sharing.
                        I currently trying to keep a maximum of part, but it doesn't mean that I wont change it later.

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                        • Thomas_Stagsforgeundefined
                          Thomas_Stagsforge @Veti
                          last edited by Thomas_Stagsforge

                          @Veti

                          Hi,

                          See this link, I suppose this is why there is +5V.

                          link text

                          I ran some test. So I plug the sensor to the duet with only 2 wires. There are connected to Signal and Gnd on the heated bed. The DuetControl app give me 25°C room temperature, not bad. I warmed up the thermistor with a blowdryer, temperature ingrease to 40°C. I currently doing a test with melting ice in a bag to get close to 0°C.

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @curlypaul
                            last edited by

                            @curlypaul said in Raise3D Heated Bed thermistor and Duet2Wifi:

                            After struggling with our N2 Printers, I changed the bed at the same time (as fitting a duet wifi and piezo for z probing) to a machined C250 bed into which i put standard glass into, and heated with a mains powered pad

                            that is really nice!

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                            • Thomas_Stagsforgeundefined
                              Thomas_Stagsforge
                              last edited by Thomas_Stagsforge

                              Hi, just a quick update. I did a test with water and ice, the temperature drop at 14°C.

                              Anyway, I think with the actual smd thermistor it will work.
                              When my duet2wifi wiring will be finished I'll be able to test it in real conditions.

                              I made a change on configuration file buy editing the B value to match the datasheet specification (4100).

                              Thanks everyone for your help.

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                              • curlypaulundefined
                                curlypaul @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti thank you 🙂

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