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    • ginoocchundefined
      ginoocch
      last edited by

      Hello!

      Background: (I'm building a railcore). I'm trying to setup an SSR controlled main voltage bed heater, but I cannot get the SSR/bed heater to power on.

      Board setup: Duet2Wifi+Duex-5, Firmware 3.1.1 (2020-05-19b2)

      SSR setup: Output side: Mains + bed heater. Input Side:Duet Bed heater(-) connected to ssr input(-) and Duet bed heater(+) connected to input(+).

      I have minimally confirmed that the SSR works (applying a 5V potential across the input side turns on an indicator light on the SSR). However, when connected to the Duet2 this indicator light never turns on (i.e. when bed heater is set to active and set temperature is elevated). This suggests to me this is probably an issue with how I have my board configured. Hopefully a typo or left out GCode! I've looked at it for hours along with others' configuration files, and can't find what I've missed. Maybe someone could take a look at my config file and see if anything stands out as wrong or has troubleshooting suggestions?

      Thanks!

      heater relevant config.g:

      ;heaters
      M950 H0 C"bedheat" Q10 T0
      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1
      M950 H2 C"e1heat" T2
      M140 H0 ; the bed heater is heater 0
      
      M570 S360                                  ; Print will be terminated if a heater fault is not reset within 360 minutes.
      M143 H0 S150                                ; Maximum H0 (Bed) heater temperature
      M143 H1 S400                               ; Maximum H1 (Extruder) heater temperature 
      M143 H2 S250
      M140 S0 R0                           ; Standby and initial Temp for bed as "off"
      
      

      full config.g
      config.g

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @ginoocch
        last edited by jay_s_uk

        I can't see anything specific that it doesn't like.
        I would say that M140 needs to come before M143 when setting up a bed.

        Can you post the output of

        M98 P"config.g"
        

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          I suggest you use a multimeter to measure the voltage across the bed heater output of the Duet, to check that it has voltage when you turn the bed heater on, and to confirm that you have the correct polarity at the input to your SSR.

          Note, the heater will fault after a few seconds of being turned on, if the thermistor doesn't confirm that the temperature is rising.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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          • lewnewbyundefined
            lewnewby
            last edited by

            This may be silly but I ran into the same thing and realized that I had switched the polarity on the wires. You may want to make sure you got + going to + and - to - on from the board to the SSR.

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            • ginoocchundefined
              ginoocch
              last edited by

              M98:

              11/30/2020, 7:08:09 PM 	M98 P"config.g"
              Warning: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 295C
              Warning: Heater 2 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 533C
              Warning: Macro file config-override.g not found
              

              Voltimeter: Good call. This seems to be the issue. I connected appropriate probes to the heater+ and - duet ports and observe 0.15V voltage regardless of the heating state in the web panel. Not sure why there is a background voltage, but this is obviously not sufficient to trip the 4V cutoff of the SSR. Is there something in my configuration that would lead to the voltage being so low/not working? I measured the voltage directly at the connector ruling out a wiring problem. If it is a duet hardware issue, is it possible to just run the ssr off of one of the 5 extruder heaters on the duex board?

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @ginoocch
                last edited by dc42

                @ginoocch said in SSR bed heater + Duet2 config:

                If it is a duet hardware issue, is it possible to just run the ssr off of one of the 5 extruder heaters on the duex board?

                Yes it is.

                Is the 15A bed heater fuse on the Duet intact?

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • Donpiundefined
                  Donpi
                  last edited by

                  I didn't even know that SSR had polarities.

                  I was lucky 2 times in a row 😰

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                  • ginoocchundefined
                    ginoocch @dc42
                    last edited by ginoocch

                    @dc42 said in SSR bed heater + Duet2 config:

                    Is the 15A bed heater fuse on the Duet intact?

                    Yes, its fine.

                    Switching to E02 on the duex worked great, and now I get a fun light indicator 😁 Thanks for your help!

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