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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      i print at 60mm/sec with stealthchop2 on the mini 5.
      travel moves are at 100mm/sec.

      though the noise reduction is not a good at those speeds.

      be aware that you can not use the automatic switch over to stealthchop at those speeds. it will result in missed steps.

      if your printer is tuned well and the cooling is good this will work.

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      • jckrayundefined
        jckray
        last edited by

        @dc42 I have my mini configured in spreadcycle and only have stealthchop2 enabled during homing since I'm using sensorless homing. However, during printing, I'm getting a lot of skipped steps, and it seems like the motors are cooler running at the same current I was running them at on Duet 2. It seems to be skipping steps on rather small slow moves. I've tried some very large fast moves to test it, but don't get any skipped steps when I do that.

        I have tried increasing motor current to 90% of their rated current up from about 75% to try and increase torque and reduce skipped steps, but it doesn't seem to be having much of an effect. Acceleration, jerk, speeds, etc are all the same as what I was using when I had the printer connected to a Duet 2.

        Any ideas?

        John
        Founder of Hydra Research LLC, developers of the open-source 3D printers and providers of 3D printing services.
        https://www.hydraresearch3d.com/

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          One difference from Duet 2 is that by default the drivers reduce current to 75% when the motor is at standstill or running very slowly. Perhaps this is the reason. Unless you are running close to maximum 2A current, you can use the M917 command to increase the standstill current to 100%.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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          • jckrayundefined
            jckray @dc42
            last edited by jckray

            @dc42 I have low speed/standstill current set to 100%.

            There seems to be a little bit of "stutter/vibration" in the movement that periodically results in layer shift. It happens regularly throughout the print, but I can't seem to isolate exactly what is causing it. Nothing hardware wise has changed since I switched from the Duet 2 to the Mini5+. I copied my config below in case there might be something I messed up in there that I'm not seeing. Running firmware version 3.2

            I'm using slicer controlled acceleration and jerk, so I will try some gcode without that. However, I'm still noticing some "stutter" in the movement when not printing.

            ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.2)
            ; Executed by the firmware on start-up
            ; Created by Hydra Research LLC specifically for the Minnow 3D Printer
            
            ; GENERAL
            G90                                                     ; Send absolute coordinates...
            M83                                                     ; ...but relative extruder moves
            
            ; DISPLAY
            M918 P2                                                 ; Enable/Config 12864 display
            
            ; NETWORK
            M550 PMinnow - Hydra Research                           ; Set machine name
            M552 S1                                                 ; Enable network
            M586 P0 S1                                              ; Enable HTTP
            M586 P1 S0                                              ; Disable FTP
            M586 P2 S0                                              ; Disable Telnet
            
            ; DRIVES
            M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 E4                                      ; Assign axis to drivers
            M569 P0 S1 D3 V2000                                     ; Configure X axis drive
            M569 P1 S0 D3 V2000                                     ; Configure Y axis drive
            M569 P2 S1                                              ; Configure Z1 axis drive
            M569 P3 S1                                              ; Configure Z2 axis drive
            M569 P4 S1                                              ; Configure E axis drive
            
            ; MOTION CONFIG
            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                                 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
            M92 X200 Y200 Z1600 E388                                ; Set steps per mm (E: rec 409/actual 388)
            M566 X480 Y480 Z25 E800                                 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min), Cura will override this
            M203 X15000 Y15000 Z1000 E12000                         ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X1250 Y1250 Z250 E1250                             ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M204 P800 T1250                                         ; Set printing and travel accelerations, Cura will override this
            M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1100 E1000 I100                       ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            M917 X100 Y100 Z100 E100                                ; Set standstill/low speed motor current as percent
            M84 S30                                                 ; Set idle timeout
            
            ; AXIS LIMITS
            M208 X-20 Y-15 Z0 S1                                    ; Set axis minima
            M208 X256 Y240 Z205 S0                                  ; Set axis maxima
            M564 H1 S1                                              ; disallow movement without homing
            
            ; STALLGAURD/ENDSTOPS
            M574 X1 Y1 S3                                           ; Configure X-min and Y-min endstops
            M915 X S62 F0 H400 R0                                   ; Configure Stall Guard for X
            M915 Y S62 F0 H400 R0                                   ; Configure Stall Guard for Y
            
            ; FILAMENT SENSOR
            ;M591 D0 P1 C"e0stop" S1                                ; Configure simple filament sensor pause print on runout
            
            ; Z-PROBE
            M950 S0 C"io3.out"                                      ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
            M558 P9 C"^io3.in" H2 R0.25 F500 T12000 A5 S0.012       ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
            G31 X60 Y-4 Z2 P25                                      ; BLT Set Z-probe trigger value, offset, and trigger height
            M557 X42:245 Y5:201 P4:4                                ; BLT Define mesh grid
            
            ; HEATERS/SERVOS
            M140 H0                                                 ; Assign default bed heater
            M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950            ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
            M950 H0 C"out0" T0 Q10                                  ; Create bed heater
            M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8   ; Configure PT1000 for heater 1
            M950 H1 C"out1" T1
            M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                        ; disable bang-bang mode for the nozzle heater and set PWM limit
            M143 H0 S123                                            ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 123C
            M143 H1 S295                                            ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 295C
            M570 H0 P10 T10 S.1                                     ; Heater 0 fault detection
            M570 H1 P10 T10 S.1                                     ; Heater 1 fault detection
            
            ; FANS
            M950 F0 C"out5" Q500
            M106 P0 I0 F250 L25 B0.1 H-1 C"Part Fan"                ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control off
            M950 F1 C"out6" Q500
            M106 P1 S255 H1 T50 C"Tool Fan"                         ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
            
            ; TOOLS
            M563 P0 D0 H1                                           ; Define tool 0
            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                         ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S0                                            ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
            
            ; EXTRUSION
            M572 D0 S0.02                                           ; Set default pressure advance value
            
            ; POWERLOSS
            M911 S22.0 R23.0 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000"  ; Set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
            
            ; INITIALIZE
            M501                                                    ; Read stored parameters from sys/config-override
            
            ---------
            
            

            John
            Founder of Hydra Research LLC, developers of the open-source 3D printers and providers of 3D printing services.
            https://www.hydraresearch3d.com/

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @jckray
              last edited by

              @jckray, the stutter you are seeing may be the "jerk" that occurs when the drivers switch from stealthChop to spreadCycle mode at the speed determined by the M569 V parameter. The TMC2209 datasheet section 6.5 describes this jerk.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • jckrayundefined
                jckray @dc42
                last edited by

                @dc42 I've been testing for about a week with the printer is configured in spreadcycle during printing and I'm still getting that stutter I described earlier and skipped steps somewhat regularly. Is it possible that the switch between stealthchop and spreadcycle is still happening somehow, even though the configuration is for spreadcycle only?

                John
                Founder of Hydra Research LLC, developers of the open-source 3D printers and providers of 3D printing services.
                https://www.hydraresearch3d.com/

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Do you notice any hiccups in M122?

                  Do you have mesh compensation active? I notice your Z jerk is rather low.

                  M566 X480 Y480 Z25 E800

                  That can sometimes cause stuttering when it's trying to adjust Z for mesh compensation. M566 Z60 is usually enough to solve that.

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                  • jckrayundefined
                    jckray @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux What do you mean by hiccups in M122?

                    Yes, compensation is active. I have a difference of 0.2mm between the min and max points. I wouldn't think that would be enough to cause issues with the z-axis not being able to adjust fast enough to keep up. I was not having these issues with the same config on a Duet 2.

                    I will try increasing the z jerk to see if that has an effect.

                    Thanks for your suggestions.

                    John
                    Founder of Hydra Research LLC, developers of the open-source 3D printers and providers of 3D printing services.
                    https://www.hydraresearch3d.com/

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      In the M122 report there will be a entry for hiccups. These are pauses that happen when it can't keep up with the commanded movement. It should be 0. Anything more than 100 would be a problem.

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                      • jckrayundefined
                        jckray @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux Gotcha didn't know that existed. Just checked and I have zero hiccups on the current print I'm running, but there haven't been any issues with the current print thus far. I will make sure to check that next time there is an issue.

                        John
                        Founder of Hydra Research LLC, developers of the open-source 3D printers and providers of 3D printing services.
                        https://www.hydraresearch3d.com/

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