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    • Dogma2kundefined
      Dogma2k
      last edited by

      Hello everyone, I am considering buying a tool board lc1.
      However, I have heard that there are problems when the tool board is installed in an enclosure with temperatures of around 70 degrees Celsius.
      I was told that the tool board switches off or restarts from a chip temperature of approx. 75 degrees.

      My question is that what I heard about it is correct and if so, how do you get the chip cooled?

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by Phaedrux

        It should be good up to 85c if I recall.

        @Dogma2k said in Use tool board lc1 in a printer with enclosure:

        how do you get the chip cooled?

        Some setups use a fresh air supply being tubed in and blown at the electronics. Adding some heat shielding. Foil tape maybe? There's always water cooling, but that's mostly only good for specific components rather than an entire PCB.

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        • Dogma2kundefined
          Dogma2k
          last edited by

          I had also thought of fresh air, but I don't know how to do that. Because in my opinion the tool board belongs on the print head.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            With a fan/blower outside of the enclosure with a flexible tube going into the chamber. Remember the tool board doesn't need to be ambient, just cooler than the surrounding chamber.

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            • Dogma2kundefined
              Dogma2k
              last edited by

              Do you have an example of such a flexible tube?
              Or would a 6mm tube be sufficient, e.g. for vacuum pumps?

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @Dogma2k
                last edited by dc42

                @Dogma2k, the LEDs on the tool board are rated to 85C. Above that, their light output will degrade more quickly.

                All the other components ate rated to 105C or more. However, you must allow for the fact that the 5V regulator chip and the TMC2209 driver generate significant amounts of heat. The TMC2209 will start warning about overheating at about 100C and shut down at about 120C. So you might be able to use it in a 70C chamber without extra cooling. But it would be better to cool the tool board if you can. If you are already cooling the hot end using water or cool air from outside the enclosure, you could use the same system to cool the tool board too.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @Dogma2k
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                  @Dogma2k said in Use tool board lc1 in a printer with enclosure:

                  Do you have an example of such a flexible tube?
                  Or would a 6mm tube be sufficient, e.g. for vacuum pumps?

                  https://drmrehorst.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-mother-of-all-print-cooling-fans.html

                  Look for CPAP tubing.

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                  • Dogma2kundefined
                    Dogma2k
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                    @Phaedrux
                    Thanks for the link, but I think that's a little too much air. My ABS or PA12 won't be happy about that. That certainly creates a lot of turbulence

                    @dc42
                    With some of them, the tool board in an enclosure at 70-80 degrees temperature caused problems and shutdowns. I think you can't keep the driver below 100 degrees with air at 70 degrees.
                    Is the problem just the stepper driver or the chip on the tool board. My idea would be to connect the extruder to the Duet 3 and the rest to the tool board. Could that work?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      It's just an example. Build to suit.

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