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    • c310undefined
      c310
      last edited by

      on my duetwifi i have used 24v 60w heater cartridge. it was easily heating up to 310 degrees, but yesterday it was hardly reaching 280.... i checked cables and re-calibrated with M303.
      No luck 😞

      in my understanding is that heater either works or not. it can not degrade...

      am i right?
      and where else should i check to fix the issue?

      thanks!

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        measure the resistance of the heater.
        then calculate its power from that.

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        • dc42undefined
          dc42 administrators
          last edited by

          Check all connections between the heater and the Duet. Also check the connections between the PSU and the Duet.

          If you did any work on the hot end between the heater working and not working fully, check that there is a gap between the bottom of the heatsink and the top of the heater block.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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          • deckingmanundefined
            deckingman
            last edited by

            ,........and check your power supply. M122 will show you the min and max voltage - check that you have 24v when the heater(s) is/are on.

            Ian
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            • c310undefined
              c310
              last edited by

              it is 19 Ohms, that gives 30W... that gives half of what it should be 😞

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              • dragonnundefined
                dragonn
                last edited by

                This can happen. Actually you are lucky, sometimes can happen that a heater gets a short and just burns out destroying fuses or cables/connectors with it.
                Just replace it.

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                • c310undefined
                  c310 @dragonn
                  last edited by c310

                  VIN was between 24.5 and 25.0 volts , all cables and connections were in a good shape..

                  finally, i have replaced it...
                  and new one works as it should be 🙂

                  thank you all for support!

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                  • c310undefined
                    c310 @dc42
                    last edited by

                    @dc42 it had happened again 😞 are there any parts on the Duet WiFi board that potentially have degraded?

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Would seem strange that any degradation on the duet would get better when replacing the cartridge though, wouldn't it?

                      60W cartridge would be quite powerful. Perhaps the life expectancy is shorter than a regular 30w.

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators @c310
                        last edited by

                        @c310 said in heater cartridge degraded and "lost power":

                        @dc42 it had happened again 😞 are there any parts on the Duet WiFi board that potentially have degraded?

                        The only things I can think of that might have degraded in a way that reduced output power are the soldering of the heater output connector to the PCB, and the soldering of the main VIN fuse holder to the PCB. If those joints are bad, the problem should be easily visible.

                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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