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    • Agniusmundefined
      Agniusm
      last edited by

      thanks. mine probably be with e3d sock.

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators
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        5mm is plenty, but put 2 layers of Kapton tape on the back as recommended in the fitting instructions, in case the heater block rotates, to prevent the back of the sensor board shorting against it.

        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        • number40fanundefined
          number40fan
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          I was scared and put 5 layers!

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          • Agniusmundefined
            Agniusm
            last edited by

            Thanks. I turned the probe around so all the components are on the cool side. I'll put some caption on it, good advice.

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            • Agniusmundefined
              Agniusm
              last edited by

              I just started wiring. I got some stranded 24awg utp cable. Would that be suficient for the motors? It is very convenient with 8 conductors inside:)

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                24awg should be OK for up to 2A motor current, but not much more.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • Agniusmundefined
                  Agniusm
                  last edited by

                  Ok thanks. Here is some uodate on the setup. Sketched up duet wifi enclosure. Its simple but functional. Changed panel due mout to the side and angle from 60 degrees to 36ish. Done most of the cabling, here are the photos:

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                  • Agniusmundefined
                    Agniusm
                    last edited by

                    Have a question on the bed. As i will use IR bed probe and have dual Z, should i mount my heat bed rigid or should i leave springs, old setup? It is a large bed (410x410) and four mounting points don't add to bed flatness. I am thinking of drilling two holes in the middle (same as Prusa i3 mk2) and mounting it on rigid standoffs. I will not use glass then and glue PEI sheet strait to aluminium heat bed. I will probably win some heating time.
                    Thank you

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
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                      Dual leadscrews only provide for levelling the bed in one direction, so you still need levelling screws to adjust it in the other direction.

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                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • Agniusmundefined
                        Agniusm
                        last edited by

                        Yes, but would your IR probe do that cause i ordered it specifically for that purpose. I know skew would be different.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
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                          If you connect the two Z stepper motors to separate stepper drivers, then you can use a Z probe of any type to do bed levelling in one direction. To level the bed in both directions, you need to use 3 Z motors and leadscrews.

                          If you will be using the IR sensor with a PEI bed, read the important notes on bed surface in the IR sensor fitting instructions first. Or use opaque PEI if you can find it.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                          • Agniusmundefined
                            Agniusm
                            last edited by

                            I did read. i have painted my bed with black matt oven spray paint and then all that 160C for one hour stuff. So, will IR bed probe and duet wifi do bed compensation or not, cause if it would there is no need even for Z compensation or i am mising something?

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              Yes they will do bed compensation, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation. However, it's best to get the bed as close to level as you can by manual means first, to reduce wear on the Z axis.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                              • Agniusmundefined
                                Agniusm
                                last edited by

                                Yes, i done that on other printer with shims.

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                                • Agniusmundefined
                                  Agniusm
                                  last edited by

                                  I would like to start tinkering with firmware and setting up the printer. I have some issues understanding some of the configuration tool parameters.

                                  How to determine motor direction? Is this to do with motor polarity if its wired the wrong way, you just revers it? Next microstepping, leave it at x16 up it to the max?
                                  Next:

                                  I have NC microswitches on XYZ and DC42 IR probe.So my switches will be active high but what to do with IR bed probe, basicaly how to set up this section? I guess i want to set up as active high for X and Y and Z probe for Z?
                                  Next:

                                  Whats the bed output bang-bang?
                                  Is there a way to determine Bed NTC K value of unknown thermistor?
                                  I have ordered Daughter board for PT100 sensor with e3d sensor so E0 channel would be MAX31855 thermocouple 0 (where 0 is channel number)?
                                  Next:

                                  Again, using IR probe from duet3d.com, how to set up to probe more points on the bed? Would i need to add a code to compensation .g file manually?

                                  Inversion of fan output does to do, again with wrong wiring?
                                  What is the value in percentage for?

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
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                                    Motor directions: set them all to forwards, then reverse any that are wrong
                                    IR probe: select smart IR probe. Set trigger height to 1mm initially, and adjust it by editing the G31 command in config.g when you have measured it.
                                    Microstepping: start with x16 and interpolation on.
                                    See https://duet3d.com/wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors and https://duet3d.com/wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation for bed levelling and mesh bed compensation. You can use bed levelling followed by mesh bed compensation if you want.

                                    HTH David

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                    • MontyFlangeundefined
                                      MontyFlange
                                      last edited by

                                      How did it work out. I'm going to put a WiFi in my CR-10

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                                      • Agniusmundefined
                                        Agniusm
                                        last edited by

                                        Still in progress. Have taken upon task changing motion system to linear guide rails. Basically little of creality will be present

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                                        • McAdamundefined
                                          McAdam
                                          last edited by

                                          @MontyFlange - I am currently filming a video about converting a CR-10, and will also do a live stream installation. If you need any help just let me know.

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                                          • Agniusmundefined
                                            Agniusm
                                            last edited by

                                            With prusa i3 mk3 anounced i wander if duet wifi hardware is capable of detecting skipped steps and could work without end stops by detecting current increase on hard stop?

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