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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Yes they will do bed compensation, see https://duet3d.com/wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation. However, it's best to get the bed as close to level as you can by manual means first, to reduce wear on the Z axis.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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      • Agniusmundefined
        Agniusm
        last edited by

        Yes, i done that on other printer with shims.

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        • Agniusmundefined
          Agniusm
          last edited by

          I would like to start tinkering with firmware and setting up the printer. I have some issues understanding some of the configuration tool parameters.

          How to determine motor direction? Is this to do with motor polarity if its wired the wrong way, you just revers it? Next microstepping, leave it at x16 up it to the max?
          Next:

          I have NC microswitches on XYZ and DC42 IR probe.So my switches will be active high but what to do with IR bed probe, basicaly how to set up this section? I guess i want to set up as active high for X and Y and Z probe for Z?
          Next:

          Whats the bed output bang-bang?
          Is there a way to determine Bed NTC K value of unknown thermistor?
          I have ordered Daughter board for PT100 sensor with e3d sensor so E0 channel would be MAX31855 thermocouple 0 (where 0 is channel number)?
          Next:

          Again, using IR probe from duet3d.com, how to set up to probe more points on the bed? Would i need to add a code to compensation .g file manually?

          Inversion of fan output does to do, again with wrong wiring?
          What is the value in percentage for?

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            Motor directions: set them all to forwards, then reverse any that are wrong
            IR probe: select smart IR probe. Set trigger height to 1mm initially, and adjust it by editing the G31 command in config.g when you have measured it.
            Microstepping: start with x16 and interpolation on.
            See https://duet3d.com/wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors and https://duet3d.com/wiki/Using_mesh_bed_compensation for bed levelling and mesh bed compensation. You can use bed levelling followed by mesh bed compensation if you want.

            HTH David

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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            • MontyFlangeundefined
              MontyFlange
              last edited by

              How did it work out. I'm going to put a WiFi in my CR-10

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              • Agniusmundefined
                Agniusm
                last edited by

                Still in progress. Have taken upon task changing motion system to linear guide rails. Basically little of creality will be present

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                • McAdamundefined
                  McAdam
                  last edited by

                  @MontyFlange - I am currently filming a video about converting a CR-10, and will also do a live stream installation. If you need any help just let me know.

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                  • Agniusmundefined
                    Agniusm
                    last edited by

                    With prusa i3 mk3 anounced i wander if duet wifi hardware is capable of detecting skipped steps and could work without end stops by detecting current increase on hard stop?

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      It would possible to do that, but it would need to be tuned to the particular motors and mechanics you made using. It's not especially accurate, because the stall detection is only updated every full step of the motor. You couldn't rely on it it to detect the stall on exactly the same full step each time. IMO it's a bit of a gimmick - like the automatic XY skew calibration in the i3 Mk2, which solves a problem that doesn't exist except in badly-made cheap 3D printer kits.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                      • Agniusmundefined
                        Agniusm
                        last edited by

                        When i was ordering my mk2 i was made thinking about XY skew correction to be a top notch tech but when i got thinking about it as you say just a gimmick, but that's what they have to do to get printer made of threaded rods( 😄 ) aligned. It was my first machine so i was not really familiar with cnc or 3D printers.
                        So basically all that stuff is just eye candy, except perhaps the bed. There is no need for layer shift detection cause if the machine is setup right it should not happen anyway unless you left part removal mallet on the rails.
                        What would you suggest to use for endsops? I have CR-10 mechanical switches and those geeetech optical endstops. Salvaged some resistors to replace and make them compatible with 3V as per guide.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          I have found mechanical switches to be entirely adequate. The optical ones should work well too. So use either.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                          • Agniusmundefined
                            Agniusm
                            last edited by

                            I would like to reduce some wiring going to the extruder assembly and was wandering if everyting on duet has common ground and if it is OK to tie up ground?
                            I would like to route common groung for extruder heater, pt100, 2 fans, stepper and ir sensor.
                            Thanks

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              You can use a common +12V or +24V line for the extruder heater and both fans (assuming they are all the same voltage), because the Duet switches the ground side ot the supply to all those devices. That's all. Take the common positive supply from the extruder heater output, because the fan output connectors shouldn't carry more than 2A.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • Agniusmundefined
                                Agniusm
                                last edited by

                                OK. Got another weird question out of the blue, dont laugh. So i habe that IR probe with signal, ground and +3.3. What would happen if i will have a switch paralleled to IR ground and signal shorted? The probe is used before print and keepimg wiring to the minimum, what if simple filament runout sensor switch was hooked there? I am no electronics guy but would that might work?

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                                • Agniusmundefined
                                  Agniusm
                                  last edited by

                                  Btw, here is my extruder and all:

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    @Agniusm:

                                    OK. Got another weird question out of the blue, dont laugh. So i habe that IR probe with signal, ground and +3.3. What would happen if i will have a switch paralleled to IR ground and signal shorted? The probe is used before print and keepimg wiring to the minimum, what if simple filament runout sensor switch was hooked there? I am no electronics guy but would that might work?

                                    I don't see why you would want to connect a filament runout sensor to the Z probe input. Filament monitors are normally connected to spare endstop inputs.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                    • Agniusmundefined
                                      Agniusm
                                      last edited by

                                      Started wiring. Got the X and Z working fine. Still need to wire in some end stops.
                                      Do i need mechanical endstop on Z if i have IR bed probe?
                                      The thing that buggers me though is the constant disconnect with message:
                                      An AJAX error has been reported, so the current session has been terminated.
                                      Please check if your printer is still on and try to connect again.
                                      Error reason: timeout

                                      Then i get:
                                      Could not establish a connection to the Duet firmware! Please check your settings and try again.
                                      After some refreshes it connects but it repeats.

                                      I have read about signal strength but have no clue why, i think i have good connection, probably 6m away.

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        See https://duet3d.com/wiki/WiFi_disconnections_and_AJAX_timeout_errors to start with.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                        • Agniusmundefined
                                          Agniusm
                                          last edited by

                                          [[language]]
                                          M122
                                          === Diagnostics ===
                                          Used output buffers: 3 of 32 (8 max)
                                          === Platform ===
                                          RepRapFirmware for Duet WiFi version 1.19 running on Duet WiFi 1.0
                                          Board ID: 08DDM-9FAM2-LW4S4-6JKF0-3SD6J-T2SVX
                                          Static ram used: 21176
                                          Dynamic ram used: 95928
                                          Recycled dynamic ram: 1680
                                          Stack ram used: 1304 current, 4840 maximum
                                          Never used ram: 7448
                                          Last reset 00:01:19 ago, cause: power up
                                          Last software reset reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 7448 bytes (slot 3)
                                          Software reset code 0x0003, HFSR 0x00000000, CFSR 0x00000000, ICSR 0x00400000, BFAR 0xe000ed38, SP 0xffffffff
                                          Error status: 0
                                          Free file entries: 10
                                          SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                                          SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms
                                          MCU temperature: min 21.0, current 26.2, max 28.4
                                          Supply voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0
                                          Driver 0: standstill
                                          Driver 1: standstill
                                          Driver 2: standstill
                                          Driver 3: standstill
                                          Driver 4: standstill
                                          Date/time: 2017-11-11 23:25:16
                                          Slowest main loop (seconds): 0.008141; fastest: 0.000034
                                          === Move ===
                                          MaxReps: 0, StepErrors: 0, FreeDm: 240, MinFreeDm 240, MaxWait: 0ms, Underruns: 0, 0
                                          Scheduled moves: 0, completed moves: 0
                                          Bed compensation in use: none
                                          Bed probe heights: 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
                                          === Heat ===
                                          Bed heater = 0, chamber heater = -1
                                          === GCodes ===
                                          Segments left: 0
                                          Stack records: 1 allocated, 0 in use
                                          Movement lock held by null
                                          http is idle in state(s) 0
                                          telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                                          file is idle in state(s) 0
                                          serial is idle in state(s) 0
                                          aux is idle in state(s) 0
                                          daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                                          queue is idle in state(s) 0
                                          autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                                          Code queue is empty.
                                          Network state is running
                                          WiFi module is connected to access point 
                                          WiFi firmware version 1.19
                                          WiFi MAC address 5c:cf:7f:ef:4d:9b
                                          WiFi Vcc 3.12, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                                          WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 39848
                                          WiFi IP address 192.168.2.144
                                          WiFi signal strength -62dBm
                                          HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
                                          Socket states: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                                          Responder states: HTTP(1) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0)
                                          
                                          
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                                          • Agniusmundefined
                                            Agniusm
                                            last edited by

                                            Updated firmware and interface, i don't know why some modules show as 1.19 when it should be 1.20:

                                            Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet WiFi
                                            Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.0
                                            Firmware Version: 1.19 (2017-08-14)
                                            WiFi Server Version: 1.19.2
                                            Web Interface Version: 1.19.3

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