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    • Monkey68undefined
      Monkey68 @Monkey68
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      @monkey68 do you want me to remove all the extra e stuff i put in when you told me to remove all the z stuff?

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
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        Yes, all the duplicate E stuff is probably going to mess up your extruder.

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        • Monkey68undefined
          Monkey68 @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux said in homing dual z with independant motors:

          E12 isn't valid in any way.

          so how am i supposed to show the E1 drive high position?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by Phaedrux

            You don't have to. The E driver is assigned to the Z axis and will take all of the settings applied to Z.

            M574 Z2 S1 P"!zstop+!e1stop"

            That line tells the firmware that the Z endstop will be the combo of zstop and e1stop.

            Home the z axis as a single axis and it will take care of the rest.

            It's a lot simpler than you seem to think it is.

            Again, which guides are you looking at? If it's a Duet wiki page that is leading you astray, let me know and I can try and make it clearer.

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            • Monkey68undefined
              Monkey68 @Phaedrux
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              @phaedrux ok thankyou for explaing that. So the endstops report as stopped when pushed in m119 and not stopped when not pushed but it doesnt stop the gantry had to estop[ it again

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Can you copy and paste the results of M119?

                Can you also post your current config.g and homeall.g just so I'm looking at the current versions you're actually using?

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                • Monkey68undefined
                  Monkey68 @Monkey68
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                  @monkey68 14/09/2021, 16:41:16 m119
                  Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: at max stop, Z probe: not stopped
                  14/09/2021, 16:41:12 m119
                  Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: not stopped, Z probe: not stopped
                  14/09/2021, 16:40:59 m119
                  Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: at max stop, Z probe: not stopped
                  14/09/2021, 16:40:31 m119
                  Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: not stopped, Z probe: not stopped

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                  • Monkey68undefined
                    Monkey68 @Monkey68
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                    @monkey68 ; Network
                    M552 S1 ; enable network
                    M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                    M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                    M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                    ; Drives
                    M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                    M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                    M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                    M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                    M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 4 goes backwards

                    ;M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                    M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.4 E0.3 ;two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
                    M671 X-18:224 Y112.5:112.5 S0.5 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
                    ;M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1
                    ;M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00:400.00 E143.2 ; set steps per mm
                    M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E143.2
                    ;M566 X800.00 Y800.00 Z1000.00:1000.00 E3600.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                    M566 X800.00 Y800.00 Z1000.00 E3600.00
                    ;M203 X9600.00 Y9600.00 Z1000.00:1000.00 E6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                    M203 X9600.00 Y9600.00 Z1000.00 E6000.00
                    ;M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z600.00:600.00 E2000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                    M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z600.00 E2000.00
                    ;M906 X1250 Y1300 Z1250:1250 E1250 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                    M906 X1250 Y1300 Z1250 E1250 I30
                    M572 D0 S0.002 ;set pressure advance
                    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                    ; Axis Limits
                    M208 X-27 Y-35 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                    M208 X250 Y225 Z300 S0 ; set axis maxima
                    ;M208 X-5:205 Y0:200 ; X carriage moves from -5 to 205, Y bed goes from 0 to 200

                    ; Endstops ```; Snnn 1 = switch-type (eg microswitch) endstop input, 2 = Z probe (when used to home an axis other than Z), 3 = single motor load detection, 4 = multiple motor load detection
                    M574 X1 S1 P"!xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                    M574 Y1 S1 P"!ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                    M574 Z2 S1 P"!zstop" ; configure active-high endstops for low end on Z via pins zstop and e1stop
                    M574 Z2 S1 P"!zstop+!e1stop" ; configure active-high endstops for high end on Z via pins zstop and e1stop

                    ; Filament Sensing
                    M591 D0 P1 C"!e0stop" S1 ; filament monitor connected to E0 endstop

                    ; Z-Probe
                    M558 P1 C"zprobe.in" H3 F600 T6000 A3 S0.03 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                    G31 P1000 X25 Y14 Z1.50 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                    ;M557 X45:265 Y45:265 S110 ; define mesh grid glass bed plate
                    M557 X45:245 Y45:220 S87.5 ; define mesh grid prusa bed plate

                    ; Heaters
                    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                    ;M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                    M307 H0 A90.0 C700.0 D10.0 S1.00 V0.0 B1
                    M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                    M143 H0 S150 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 150C
                    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                    ;M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                    ;M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 V0.0 B0
                    M307 H1 A388.5 C88.1 D2.4 S1.00 V24.2 B0
                    M143 H1 S500 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 500C

                    ; Fans
                    M950 F0 C"^fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                    M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                    M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                    M950 F2 C"duex.fan3" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin duex.fan3 and set its frequency
                    M106 P2 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                    M950 F3 C"duex.fan4" Q500 ; create fan 3 on pin duex.fan4 and set its frequency
                    M106 P3 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                    ; Tools
                    M563 P0 S"Copper Head" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0:0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                    ; Custom settings are not defined

                    ; Miscellaneous
                    T0 ; select first tool
                    M501

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @Monkey68
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                      @monkey68 said in homing dual z with independant motors:

                      M574 Z2 S1 P"!zstop" ; configure active-high endstops for low end on Z via pins zstop and e1stop
                      M574 Z2 S1 P"!zstop+!e1stop" ; configure active-high endstops for high end on Z via pins zstop and e1stop

                      You only need the second line. Remove the first that just has zstop.

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                      • Monkey68undefined
                        Monkey68 @Monkey68
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                        @monkey68 not using home all just doing the axis separately at this stage, but here is home all;
                        G91 ; relative positioning
                        G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                        G1 H1 X-282 Y265 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                        G1 H2 X5 Y-5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                        G1 H1 X-282 Y265 F360 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                        G1 H1 Z305 F360 ; move Z up stopping at the endstop
                        G90 ; absolute positioning
                        G92 Z300 ; set Z position to axis maximum (you may want to adjust this)

                        Home z;
                        G90 ; absolute positioning
                        G1 X125 Y105 F6000 ; go to probe point
                        G91 ; relative positioning
                        G1 H2 Z305 E1305 F1800 ; lift Z relative to current position
                        G1 H1 Z-5 E1-5 F6000
                        G1 H2 Z10 E110 F360
                        G90
                        G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

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                        • Monkey68undefined
                          Monkey68 @Monkey68
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                          @monkey68 removed that and the endstops still do not stop the gantry

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Monkey68
                            last edited by

                            @monkey68 said in homing dual z with independant motors:

                            Home z;
                            G90 ; absolute positioning
                            G1 X125 Y105 F6000 ; go to probe point
                            G91 ; relative positioning
                            G1 H2 Z305 E1305 F1800 ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G1 H1 Z-5 E1-5 F6000
                            G1 H2 Z10 E110 F360
                            G90
                            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                            If you're just doing home Z then your homez file needs to be updated to match how you're homing z in homeall. You still have the H2 move which is just going to smash into the endstop. and you still have the errant E commands.

                            Try this:

                            Home z;
                            G90 ; absolute positioning
                            G1 X125 Y105 F6000 ; go to probe point
                            G91 ; relative positioning
                            G1 H1 Z305 F1800 ; home z to max
                            G1 Z-5 F6000 ; back off
                            G1 H1 Z10 F360 ; home z again
                            G90
                            G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
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                              Also, if you have the probe, you don't even really need to use the endstops for Z at all.

                              Have you read through this page yet? https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors

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                              • Monkey68undefined
                                Monkey68 @Phaedrux
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                                @phaedrux ok that works for homing z thankyou so much. in answer to your question have i read this many many times. i used to have duets optical end stop and my bed leveling would be all over the place and make it un printable, so i got to the point that i would not do mesh bed levelling just home and go, no problems.
                                thinking about it i changed the optical endstop out for a pinda probe and had similar bed mesh problems so i turned the endstops back on with independant motors trying to make sure the gantry had not sagged and causing me the mesh errors, plus homing on the high side gives me the ability to recover prints and using the probe does not

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                                  Yes nothing wrong with using both a z endstop and probe. I do so myself for the same power recovery reason.

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                                  • Monkey68undefined
                                    Monkey68 @Monkey68
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                                    @monkey68 just tried home all and the y axis drove away from the switch and homing failed so i made the following changes
                                    G91 ; relative positioning
                                    G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                    G1 H1 X-282 Y-265 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                                    G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                                    G1 H1 X-282 Y-265 F360 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                                    G90
                                    G1 X125 Y105 F6000 ; go to probe point
                                    G91
                                    G1 H1 Z305 F1800 ; move Z up stopping at the endstop
                                    G1 Z-5 F6000 ; back off
                                    G1 H1 Z10 F360 ; home z again
                                    G90 ; absolute positioning
                                    G30 ; home Z by probing the bed
                                    that seam to work

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