RRF v3.3/Mini 5+ Wifi - Major problems with layer shifting
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@t3p3tony said in RRF v3.3/Mini 5+ Wifi - Major problems with layer shifting:
Send M906 and M913 with no parameters and confirm that the currents are as expected and at 100%.
Send M569 P1 and M569 P0 (or P2 if you are using driver 2) and posts the results here.
Send M122Hi, thanks for the reply even on a saturday
I'm in the middle of testing again, but I haven't switched the cables as you suggested just yet as it requires a bit of printer disassembly (quite a bit). I will do it later.
However, I'm starting to wonder if I have beed barking up the wrong tree. With a corexy, if it shifts to -x/-y couldn't that suggest that it's the A-motor (y-motor right one) that is skipping steps when trying to do a non-diagonal move?
Is this something to worry about, btw?
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@gixxerfast I will have to get @dc42 's opinion on the failedOp 0x01 error.
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@gixxerfast Z axis jerk (1 mm/sec) and acceleration (250 mm/sec^2) seem awfully low to me. Maybe the nozzle is dragging on the print when the layer changes or when you use lift on retract...
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Latest shift after z 5mm. Going to check y-motor, crimps and switch driver for that.
Need to get myself an easier testprint.
Cable switching is after that. (The y-motor cable is shorter than the x-motor cable)
021-10-09 14:24:38 M98 P"0:/macros/test/motorcheck.g" Motor current (mA) - X:1200, Y:1200, Z:1200, E:500, idle factor 70% Motor current % of normal - X:100, Y:100, Z:100, E:100 Drive 1 runs forwards, active low enable, timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x00053, toff 3, tblank 0, hstart/hend/hdec 5/0/0, pos 920 Drive 2 runs forwards, active low enable, timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x00053, toff 3, tblank 0, hstart/hend/hdec 5/0/0, pos 56 === Diagnostics === RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.3 (2021-06-15 21:46:11) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (standalone mode) Board ID: H1668-Y296U-D65J0-40KMA-KR03Z-RK6ZH Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (30 max) === RTOS === Static ram: 102724 Dynamic ram: 115376 of which 0 recycled Never used RAM 22748, free system stack 120 words Tasks: NETWORK(ready,17.0%,226) HEAT(delaying,0.0%,344) Move(notifyWait,2.5%,272) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,773) CanSender(notifyWait,0.1%,357) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,338) TMC(notifyWait,1.4%,72) MAIN(running,77.6%,400) IDLE(ready,0.4%,29) AIN(delaying,0.9%,264), total 100.0% Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN) === Platform === Last reset 01:53:49 ago, cause: software Last software reset at 2021-10-09 12:30, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 24252, slot 0 Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00487000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a Error status: 0x00 MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 6827511, completed 6827511, timed out 0, errs 0 Step timer max interval 751 MCU temperature: min 31.1, current 31.5, max 31.5 Supply voltage: min 23.9, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/31, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/680/220, gc cycles 2 Driver 0: position 43187, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 19, reads 18270, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 1: position 3882, standstill, SG min/max 0/138, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 59, reads 18270, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 2: position 1972, ok, SG min/max 0/140, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 59, reads 18271, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/6, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 53, reads 18270, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/6, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 53, reads 18270, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 5: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/16, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 53, reads 18270, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 6: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/4, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 53, reads 18270, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Date/time: 2021-10-09 14:24:35 Cache data hit count 4294967295 Slowest loop: 7.46ms; fastest: 0.07ms === Storage === Free file entries: 8 SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec SD card longest read time 4.2ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0 === Move === DMs created 83, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000 === MainDDARing === Scheduled moves 380245, completed moves 380205, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [403, 4, 0], CDDA state 3 === AuxDDARing === Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1 === Heat === Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.4 Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0 === GCodes === Segments left: 1 Movement lock held by null HTTP is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0 0, running macro Telnet is idle in state(s) 0 File is doing "G1 X135.826 Y123.358 E0.02813" in state(s) 0 USB is idle in state(s) 0 Aux is idle in state(s) 0 Trigger is idle in state(s) 0 Queue is idle in state(s) 0 LCD is idle in state(s) 0 SBC is idle in state(s) 0 Daemon is idle in state(s) 0 Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0 Autopause is idle in state(s) 0 Code queue is empty. === CAN === Messages queued 22392, received 2415, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 278, free buffers 17 (min 3), ts 1006/1006/0 Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0 === Network === Slowest loop: 201.41ms; fastest: 0.06ms Responder states: HTTP(1) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions HTTP sessions: 1 of 8 - WiFi - Network state is active WiFi module is connected to access point Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 8 WiFi firmware version 1.26 WiFi MAC address f0:08:d1:02:eb:c9 WiFi Vcc 3.36, reset reason Power up WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 25616 WiFi IP address 192.168.1.70 WiFi signal strength -50dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem Clock register 00002002 Socket states: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -
@mrehorstdmd
Hmm, it's all stolen from allegedly working setups:-); Sets normal speeds and acceleration for printing operation M566 X600 Y600 Z60 E8000 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min) aka Jerk M203 X12000 Y12000 Z3000 E15000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min) M201 X4000 Y4000 Z250 E2000 ; Set maximum accelerations (mm/s^2) M204 P3000 T4000 ; Set printing acceleration and travel accelerationsI'll recheck those. I have a belted z and four z-motors so fast z-movements shouldn't be a problem. DO you have a suggestion?
I could up the z-acc to my old Klipper-value which was 350 mm/s2. I have no idea what a good jerk value would be.
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Well, shifted A cables to B-motor and vice versa. And reconfigured th emotor assignment as described.
But no, same thing. It shifted in the same direction.
So I made a descision to change motors to 1.8 degr OMC motors. It seems like I just can't get it to work with the LDO 0.9 degr steppers.
Anyway, I'm posting the output so that anyone that wants can maybe find out what's not working.
Here's the output from before the shifted printBEFORE 2021-10-09 18:51:44 M98 P"0:/macros/test/motorcheck.g" Register 0x06 value 0x21000048 Register 0x06 value 0x21000040 Register 0x06 value 0x2100004c Register 0x06 value 0x21000040 Register 0x06 value 0x21000044 Register 0x06 value 0x21000048 Motor current (mA) - X:1200, Y:1200, Z:1200, E:400, idle factor 70% Motor current % of normal - X:100, Y:100, Z:100, E:100 Drive 0 runs forwards, active low enable, timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x00053, toff 3, tblank 0, hstart/hend/hdec 5/0/0, pos 936 Drive 2 runs forwards, active low enable, timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x00053, toff 3, tblank 0, hstart/hend/hdec 5/0/0, pos 392 === Diagnostics === RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.3 (2021-06-15 21:46:11) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (standalone mode) Board ID: H1668-Y296U-D65J0-40KMA-KR03Z-RK6ZH Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (12 max) === RTOS === Static ram: 102724 Dynamic ram: 113440 of which 0 recycled Never used RAM 24684, free system stack 200 words Tasks: NETWORK(ready,10.2%,238) HEAT(delaying,0.0%,380) Move(notifyWait,0.1%,362) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,798) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,371) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,352) TMC(delaying,1.1%,115) MAIN(running,85.9%,426) IDLE(ready,1.8%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,264), total 100.0% Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK) HTTP(MAIN) === Platform === Last reset 00:00:17 ago, cause: software Last software reset at 2021-10-09 18:51, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 24252, slot 0 Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a Error status: 0x00 MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 17941, completed 17941, timed out 0, errs 0 Step timer max interval 752 MCU temperature: min 28.6, current 29.5, max 29.8 Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/5, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/232/162, gc cycles 0 Driver 0: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 116, reads 1577, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 1: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 49, reads 1579, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 2: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 2/2, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 116, reads 1576, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 2/2, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 110, reads 1576, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 2/2, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 112, reads 1576, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 5: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 2/2, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 110, reads 1576, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 6: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 110, reads 1576, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Date/time: 2021-10-09 18:51:40 Cache data hit count 32653113 Slowest loop: 4.75ms; fastest: 0.12ms === Storage === Free file entries: 9 SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec SD card longest read time 3.5ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0 === Move === DMs created 83, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000 === MainDDARing === Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1 === AuxDDARing === Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1 === Heat === Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 === GCodes === Segments left: 0 Movement lock held by null HTTP is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0 0, running macro Telnet is idle in state(s) 0 File is idle in state(s) 0 USB is idle in state(s) 0 Aux is idle in state(s) 0 Trigger is idle in state(s) 0 Queue is idle in state(s) 0 LCD is idle in state(s) 0 SBC is idle in state(s) 0 Daemon is idle in state(s) 0 Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0 Autopause is idle in state(s) 0 Code queue is empty. === CAN === Messages queued 169, received 202, lost 0, longest wait 2ms for reply type 6031, peak Tx sync delay 240, free buffers 17 (min 16), ts 89/88/0 Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0 === Network === Slowest loop: 20.47ms; fastest: 0.00ms Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions HTTP sessions: 1 of 8 - WiFi - Network state is active WiFi module is connected to access point Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0 WiFi firmware version 1.26 WiFi MAC address f0:08:d1:02:eb:c9 WiFi Vcc 3.36, reset reason Power up WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 25880 WiFi IP address 192.168.1.70 WiFi signal strength -57dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem Clock register 00002002 Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0After:
After: 2021-10-09 20:23:58 M98 P"0:/macros/test/motorcheck.g" Register 0x06 value 0x21000248 Register 0x06 value 0x21000240 Register 0x06 value 0x2100004c Register 0x06 value 0x21000240 Register 0x06 value 0x21000044 Register 0x06 value 0x21000248 2021-10-09 20:23:59 Motor current (mA) - X:1200, Y:1200, Z:1200, E:400, idle factor 70% Motor current % of normal - X:100, Y:100, Z:100, E:100 Drive 0 runs forwards, active low enable, timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x00053, toff 3, tblank 0, hstart/hend/hdec 5/0/0, pos 56 Drive 2 runs forwards, active low enable, timing fast, mode spreadCycle, ccr 0x00053, toff 3, tblank 0, hstart/hend/hdec 5/0/0, pos 824 === Diagnostics === RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.3 (2021-06-15 21:46:11) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (standalone mode) Board ID: H1668-Y296U-D65J0-40KMA-KR03Z-RK6ZH Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (30 max) === RTOS === Static ram: 102724 Dynamic ram: 115376 of which 0 recycled Never used RAM 22748, free system stack 114 words Tasks: NETWORK(ready,15.9%,226) HEAT(delaying,0.0%,344) Move(notifyWait,1.4%,272) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,773) CanSender(notifyWait,0.1%,357) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,338) TMC(notifyWait,1.3%,72) MAIN(running,80.1%,415) IDLE(ready,0.2%,29) AIN(delaying,0.9%,264), total 100.0% Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK) HTTP(MAIN) === Platform === Last reset 01:32:33 ago, cause: software Last software reset at 2021-10-09 18:51, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 24252, slot 0 Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a Error status: 0x00 MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 5551983, completed 5551983, timed out 0, errs 0 Step timer max interval 954 MCU temperature: min 28.6, current 32.2, max 32.4 Supply voltage: min 23.9, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes Heap OK, handles allocated/used 99/29, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 2048/1616/1178, gc cycles 1 Driver 0: position 47774, ok, SG min/max 0/478, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 130, reads 44394, writes 14, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 1: position 3742, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 49, reads 44409, writes 0, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 2: position 1985, ok, SG min/max 0/490, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 130, reads 44395, writes 14, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/62, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 125, reads 44393, writes 15, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/52, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 127, reads 44394, writes 15, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 5: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/54, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 125, reads 44394, writes 15, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Driver 6: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/66, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 127, reads 44392, writes 17, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0 Date/time: 2021-10-09 20:23:56 Cache data hit count 4294967295 Slowest loop: 211.33ms; fastest: 0.07ms === Storage === Free file entries: 8 SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec SD card longest read time 4.5ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0 === Move === DMs created 83, maxWait 262933ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000 === MainDDARing === Scheduled moves 378342, completed moves 378302, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [3832, 33, 1], CDDA state 3 === AuxDDARing === Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1 === Heat === Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.4 Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0 === GCodes === Segments left: 1 Movement lock held by null HTTP is ready with "M122" in state(s) 0 0, running macro Telnet is idle in state(s) 0 File is doing "G1 X159.839 Y151.486 E0.00557" in state(s) 0 USB is idle in state(s) 0 Aux is idle in state(s) 0 Trigger is idle in state(s) 0 Queue is idle in state(s) 0 LCD is idle in state(s) 0 SBC is idle in state(s) 0 Daemon is idle in state(s) 0 Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0 Autopause is idle in state(s) 0 Code queue is empty. === CAN === Messages queued 386228, received 66906, lost 0, longest wait 1ms for reply type 6013, peak Tx sync delay 291, free buffers 17 (min 3), ts 27680/27680/0 Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0 === Network === Slowest loop: 201.61ms; fastest: 0.06ms Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions HTTP sessions: 1 of 8 - WiFi - Network state is active WiFi module is connected to access point Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 1 WiFi firmware version 1.26 WiFi MAC address f0:08:d1:02:eb:c9 WiFi Vcc 3.36, reset reason Power up WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 22224 WiFi IP address 192.168.1.70 WiFi signal strength -55dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem Clock register 00002002 Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -
EDIT: I almost forgot. I'm an ungrateful git. Big thanks to everyone that has helped trying to pinpoint the problem.
Finally! Swapped out the Voron branded 0.9 LDO 42STH40-2004MAC with the OMC 17HS19-2004S1 1.8 degr motors and YES it comes out as it should. Btw, all grub screws and pullies were rock solid. The belts ran super smooth and was even and the gantry wasn't racked but super square
I removed all drive mod config (D2 etc..) and just ran it vanilla.
Much more silent as well
Conclusion (I hope), must be after 20 something failed prints that either this setup just doesn't work with these 0.9 degr stepper motors unless you configure it some way unknown to me or I have faulty motors. Then again I came from a fast working setup where I regulary printed with 5000+ acceleration with these.
I just don't know. I just hope this is history for me now
Voron V2.4 (#1317) with Duet 3 Mini5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.1 Toolboard
Voron V0.1 (#637) with Duet 3 Mini 5+ Wifi and 1LC v1.2 Toolboard
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I had this problem a few months ago. To fix it I had to replace the Y stepper motor. It was apparently missing steps many steps then starting up again. I suppose it could have been a connector but I used the same connector on the new motor and had no issues after that.
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@gixxerfast I wonder if replacing the PSU with a higher Voltage (36v-48v) would help? I have this problem on my corexy and can only print at 60mm/s which is slow compared to what other printers can do. I'm also using 0.9 degree motors. I'm thinking of doing what you did and changing the motors to 1.8 deg motors. this post was helpful.
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@aprz I don't know if you can even do that. Guess it depends on which board you have.
However I can't say if it would help but I think it's a hard way to go to fix something that might be fixed with other motors.
I should have changed a long time ago but I was convinced it was an "upgrade" even though I see now that those motors do not belong on a 2.4 IMHO. The OMC BOM motors are quite affordable.
I hope you can make it work better.
60 mm/sec on a Voron, or really any good corexy, is painfully slow
Cheers
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