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    • osteracundefined
      osterac
      last edited by osterac

      Hi all,
      I have a duet2 wifi with rrf 3.3 that has suddenly developed a puzzling problem. Mid-print, the extruder started binding up and filament flow decreased. I eventually figured out that this was because the filament was too cold by about 40 degrees, even though it was reading the correct temperature. I replaced the thermistor but the problem remained. I did several PID tunings but it didn't help, though during the second PID tuning the hotend wasn't able to reach the 280 degrees I have it set for. I set the hotend power from 80% to 100% and was able to reach temperature, but 80% has always worked in the past and I used it because I got a warning that the hotend could reach unsafe temperatures in the event that safety features failed.

      I guess I could print if I upped the temperature by 40 degrees but I'm not sure if that's a good idea. Any idea what's causing this?

      Thanks

      Edit:
      Another thing I forgot to mention is that the ambient temperature measurement of the hotend thermistor seems to be accurate (when the hotend has fully cooled). It's only when the hotend is heated that I have problems.

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators @osterac
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        @osterac can you see if the same issue occurs with one of the other temperature inputs? Its weird that its off suddenly by 40C. Did this happen in conjunction with any other change (like firmware upgrade etc?)

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        • osteracundefined
          osterac @T3P3Tony
          last edited by osterac

          @t3p3tony
          I have upgraded my firmware recently, but it was working correctly for several prints. I went from rrf 3.2 to rrf 3.3. I tried it in the other temperature input and same issue. I got out the temperature probe for my volt meter and took some measurements right next to the thermistor where it's enclosed in the hotend. I used a little heatsink grease to ensure consistent results.
          left side is desired temp, right is measured temp.

          40-39
          50-48
          60-57
          70-66
          80-75
          90-84
          100-92
          110-101
          120-110
          130-119
          140-128
          150-136
          160-145
          170-156
          180-165
          190-173
          200-181
          210-189
          220-197
          230-206
          240-213
          250-221
          260-228
          270-235
          280-242
          290-249
          300-256
          
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          • osteracundefined
            osterac @osterac
            last edited by osterac

            @T3P3Tony Since you mentioned firmware I decided to try downgrading to the firmware I was using previously, 3.2. After loading it, DWC reported that I still had version 3.3. I tried version 3.1.1 and version 3.4 beta 5 and it still says I have version 3.3. The DWC version changes though. Could this be related?
            I did have the issue where it wouldn't load new firmware because Duet2_SDiap32_WiFiEth.bin was missing but after loading that file the firmware installs, or at least appears to.

            Edit: just got it to update. Gonna check it out.

            Edit 2: Problem remains with rrf 3.4 beta 5

            Edit 3: Still unable to downgrade below 3.3

            Edit 4: was able to downgrade to rrf 3.2.2 and then 3.2

            Edit 5: Problem remains with 3.2

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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators @osterac
              last edited by

              @osterac you mention you replaced the thermistor. Did you update the B (&C potentially) values for the new thermistor?

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              • osteracundefined
                osterac @T3P3Tony
                last edited by osterac

                @t3p3tony
                Totally forgot about that setting. I found a thread about a thermistor similar to mine and punched in their values and now I get 1% accuracy at 200 degrees and 2.7% accuracy at 300 degrees. Works for me!
                Probably was just a bad thermistor.
                Thanks so much!

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