Mini5 to 1LC to smart effector wiring and control

opentoideas

I am just reaching the stage of connecting up my 1LC and looking at the spec on the mini 5 out1 and out2 are rated for 6A

The 1LC instructions suggest connection to the PSU with an inline fuse is there a reason to go this way rather than utilising out1 on the board?

jay_s_uk

@opentoideas you need the 1LC to have power at boot and you won't get that from out1.
Just power it normally

opentoideas

@jay_s_uk - makes sense. I figured there must be a reason.

opentoideas

is there a patient soul who could help me get things working?

I have the ILC connected and commisioned connected to CAN 20

next step is getting life from the smart effector. I am slowly working through changing the references in config.g to point to the toolboard but no sign of life yet from the smart effector....

where does it get its power from? I am guessing pins 6 and 8 on the while molex? I have 5V hete but no sign of life disconnecting and reconnecting I am expecting the smart effector LED to flash but get nothing....

jay_s_uk

@opentoideas

The probe gets it's power from here. I.e. the 3.3v (which can also be 5v) and, the output to the IO input and ground to ground
That will get the green led working. You can use an IO for these.
The heater goes to out0 and the fans to out1 and out2.
Thermistor obviously to the temp input

opentoideas

@jay_s_uk the ground on pin 6 was in the wrong way round not making contact with the pin so its powering up now.

been taking care with every pin but still got one wrong.

off to try and map things from here thank you

jay_s_uk

@opentoideas ask if you need anything else

opentoideas

@jay_s_uk thanks, stopping for tonight but just going to work the basics one bit at a time until everything is connected hopefully it will be plain sailing from here....

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opentoideas

well it looks like the Duet continues to be smarter than me!

I have been trying to define the hotend thermometer in my config.g without any luck however having a look in the object model tab the duet can see and correctly read the connected thermometer.

Selected node: sensors.analog[0].lastReading is providing the thermostat and I have confirmed its correct how do I assign this as the hotend?

ohh ok looks like the config tool makes life much simpler lol

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opentoideas

@arnold_r_clark thank you, forgot the probe was a PT1000 thats working now....

Touch probe is my next hiccup

; Z-Probe
M558 P8 R0.4 C"20.io0.in+20.io0.out" H5 F1200 T6000 ; set Z probe type to effector and the dive height + speeds
G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.1                                    ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
M557 R85 S20                                          ; define mesh grid

working through the commissioning on the dozuki and at the part where a G31 should return a zero value however I get "invalid Z probe index"

@jay_s_uk any thoughts?

This is the last problem now as everything else is tested and working

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opentoideas

@arnold_r_clark

well I was working from the instructions and config tool and both used the control and mod pins - found a post from DC42 referencing the need for the second pin if you wanted to adjust sensitivity but should work without it.

either way changing my M558 to only reference 20.io0.in still gives the same error though it does add "z probe" to the dasboard but not responding

I have had plenty of head crashes in the past so when it comes to the Z probe I make sure it works before commanding any movement.

the only references I have found to index is with multiple probes and there is an optional K parameter to M558 but tried adding K1 with no change.

without any references to what this error means I am struggling

jay_s_uk

@opentoideas your M558 line should be this
M558 P8 R0.4 C"20.io0.in+io0.out" H5 F1200 T6000 note the removal of the 20. in the middle.
Can you post your full config and the actual wording on the error?

opentoideas

@jay_s_uk @Arnold_R_Clark

must have been syntax as I thought mine and Arnold were the same but a copy and paste and it now works - not sure where the difference was but its running.

Jay I tried your M558 back to the error :

Error: G31: Invalid Z probe index

flip side without the second pin reference when I try to reduce the sensitivity....

M672 S105:020:235
Error: M672: Programming remote Z probes not supported

so with a single pin reference it works but the contact is far to hard and I seem unable to reduce the sensitivity

full config.g :


; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3.3)
; executed by the firmware on start-up
;
; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.10 on Sun Nov 28 2021 15:18:17 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time)

; General preferences
G90                                                   ; send absolute coordinates...
M83                                                   ; ...but relative extruder moves
M550 P"Predator"                                      ; set printer name
M665 R227 L440 B185 H450                            ; Set delta radius, diagonal rod length, printable radius and homed height
M666 X0 Y0 Z0                                         ; put your endstop adjustments here, or let auto calibration find them

; Wait a moment for the CAN expansion boards to start
G4 S2

; Network
M552 S1                                               ; enable network
M586 P0 S1                                            ; enable HTTP
M586 P1 S0                                            ; disable FTP
M586 P2 S0                                            ; disable Telnet

; Drives
M569 P0.0 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards
M569 P0.1 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.1 goes backwards
M569 P0.2 S0                                          ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards
M569 P20.0 S0                                        ; physical drive 20.0 goes backwards
M569 P0.4 S1                                          ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E20.0:0.4                        ; set drive mapping
M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1                            ; configure microstepping with interpolation
M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z80.00 E436.54:663.00               ; set steps per mm
M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z1200.00 E1200.00:1200.00      ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z18000.00 E1200.00:1200.00   ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z1000.00 E1000.00:1000.00      ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800:800 I30                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
M84 S30                                               ; Set idle timeout

; Axis Limits
M208 Z0 S1                                            ; set minimum Z

; Endstops
M574 X2 S1 P"io0.in"                                  ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on X via pin io0.in
M574 Y2 S1 P"io1.in"                                  ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Y via pin io1.in
M574 Z2 S1 P"io2.in"                                  ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for high end on Z via pin io2.in
M591 P2 C"20.io1.in" S1 D0.3 							; filament monitor active-low connected to pin 20.io1.in

; Z-Probe
M558 P8 R0.4 C"20.io0.in+io0.out" H5 F1200 T6000              ; Z probe type, set to unmodulated & dive height/speeds
G31 P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.254                                 ; Z probe trigger value, offset & trigger height
M557 R85 S20                                           ; Mesh grid

; Heaters
M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138          ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                    ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
M140 H0                                               ; map heated bed to heater 0
M143 H0 S120                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"pt1000"      ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 20.temp0
M950 H1 C"20.out0" T1                                    ; create nozzle heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 1
M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
M143 H1 S280                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138          ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
M950 H2 C"out2" T2                                    ; create nozzle heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 2
M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
M143 H2 S280                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

; Fans
M950 F0 C"20.out2" Q500                              ; create fan 0 on pin 121.out1 and set its frequency
M106 P0 S1 H1 T45                                     ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
M950 F1 C"20.out1" Q500                              ; create fan 1 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
M106 P1 S1 H-1                                        ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
M950 F2 C"out5" Q500                                  ; create fan 2 on pin out5 and set its frequency
M106 P2 S1 H-1                                        ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
M950 F3 C"out6" Q500                                  ; create fan 3 on pin out6 and set its frequency
M106 P3 S1 H2 T30                                     ; set fan 3 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

; Tools
M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:1                                    ; define tool 0
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                       ; set tool 0 axis offsets
G10 P0 R0 S0                                          ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
M563 P1 D1 H2 F3:2                                    ; define tool 1
G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                       ; set tool 1 axis offsets
G10 P1 R0 S0                                          ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

; Custom settings are not defined

jay_s_uk

@opentoideas my guess is that theres something strange when using the toolboard to connect to the smart effector.
I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Maybe @dc42 can comment?

opentoideas

@jay_s_uk yes I suspect the same. It looks like the sensitivity isn't lost on power off so worst case I will just have to make up a lead to directly connect the effector to the mini5 to adjust it.

at the moment it takes a huge force to trigger so unless I have done something wrong in assembly then it needs to be a lot more sensitive.

opentoideas

Its also possible my fan shroud is providing too much contact and support to the hotend heatsink. I am thinking this could dramaticly reduce sensitivity.

Tomorrow's job then will be to strip it down and fettle the fan mounting around the heatsink so its close but not touching. See if that helps.

dc42

@opentoideas programming the sensitivity of the Smart Effector from a tool board is not supported yet.