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    infiniteloop
    last edited by 26 Jan 2022, 16:25

    Can't explain these non-linear print time estimations:

    Estimations.png
    The pattern is consistent: either the value for filament usage or the estimation of file progress is way too high - the other one is too low. As the screenshots show, that interplay happened 4 times in just two minutes. At least, this behaviour is consistent with all print jobs, and the values in DWC are identical to those on my PanelDue.

    Hardware: Duet 2 WiFi, firmware: 3.4b7

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 27 Jan 2022, 05:09

      Is there anything notable about the print moves in those time periods?

      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        infiniteloop @Phaedrux
        last edited by 27 Jan 2022, 11:58

        @phaedrux No. All 1250 layers à 0.2 mm are identical, each takes about 1m15s, nothing special at all. With 2.05, that worked fine. Then I made the jump recently to 3.4b7, so I can't tell when the calculations might have been changed. However, I'm missing the incremental layer count in the state line of DWC, but I don't know if that is related to the phenomenon.

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          deckingman @infiniteloop
          last edited by 27 Jan 2022, 12:10

          @infiniteloop I've seen similar and remarked upon it on numerous occasions. It just seems to me that DWC takes a small snapshot in time of recent moves, rather than a wider perspective of the actual print progress. None of the estimations make any sense and I've given up on them completely.

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            infiniteloop @deckingman
            last edited by 27 Jan 2022, 12:25

            @deckingman

            @deckingman said in Bouncing Estimations in Print Progress:

            It just seems to me that DWC takes a small snapshot in time of recent moves

            Maybe, but with my special print object these snapshots should be very precise, as all layers take the same time to print - which makes manual calculation easy: <time_per_layer> * <remaining_layer_count>. However, with 2.05, the estimations of the firmware were better in a sense of "more linear".

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              deckingman @infiniteloop
              last edited by 27 Jan 2022, 13:21

              @infiniteloop I have a feeling that it all went haywire about the time that they ditched the estimation based on layer time. I was in the minority who found that one was marginally more useful than the other estimations, which are about as much use as an ashtray on a motor bike.

              Ian
              https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
              https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                Phaedrux Moderator @deckingman
                last edited by 27 Jan 2022, 21:46

                @deckingman said in Bouncing Estimations in Print Progress:

                which are about as much use as an ashtray on a motor bike.

                👌 Beautiful.

                @chrishamm would have to comment on the current estimates.

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                  infiniteloop @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 27 Jan 2022, 22:09

                  @phaedrux said in Bouncing Estimations in Print Progress:

                  @chrishamm would have to comment on the current estimates.

                  Hm, really? The estimation values on the Paneldue are identical, so I suppose they originate from the firmware. Or am I wrong (as so often🤕)?

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